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Adding wheel 2”spacers 2020toyota tacoma good?bad?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Ttacomaman, May 13, 2024.

  1. May 13, 2024 at 10:37 PM
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    Ttacomaman

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    Hey guys, I was thinking about putting on two spacers on my stock rims. Questionnaires I’ve heard good and bad things about spacers. Can you guys give me pros and cons from what you’ve experienced or lie Kutzky mileage down hard to balance, etc. thanks guys
     
  2. May 13, 2024 at 11:02 PM
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    Pro = They do what are intended to do.

    Cons = More maintenance and can lead to a bit more wear on the wheel bearings.

    Most guys here don’t like them. And will tell you it’s a terrible idea.
    And most of those guys have never run them to give you a “fair” opinion.
    I’m one of them. But I won’t give my opinion.

    I do not like them. But won’t tell you “not” to run them.
    I just don’t need them, and I don’t want more things to check or possibly break later.
    I want to turn the key and go. I don’t want to be bothered by more maintenance and checks than needed.
    Just be sure to get a GOOD QUALITY set from reputable manufacturer.

    Check the mounting studs each time you rotate the tires.
     
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    All the things!
    I'd stick with reputable brands (Bora and Spydertrax) and I believe they max out at 1.25" spacers.

    Be sure to install per the manufacturer's specifications, use a torque wrench and red loctite. Also, retorque and check them regularly.

    Edit: Wait! 2 spacers on the same hub? Yeah, don't do that...
     
  7. May 14, 2024 at 6:08 AM
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    i ran 0.75" spacers front and rear on an old explorer for years. 1.5" overall increased width. no problems with wheel bearings. just make sure they're tightened to spec.
     
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    Correct. Looks like the hub broke. You can see what looks to be the rotor still attached to the wheel. Probably caused by added stress the wheel spacers put on the bearings. Still the same affect though.
     
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    What do you think caused it? And please see my comment above
     
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    Been running Spidertrax for about a year now.
    No issues.
    Make sure hub and spacer are both clean before install and follow directions with the loctite and torque specs.
    I've only retorqued 1 time.

    If you really mean 2 spacers on 1 wheel, I side with the "Don't do its'"
     
  12. May 14, 2024 at 8:22 AM
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    These threads a waste of brain power.
    Im not dumb enough to speculate about it on the internet. Until I see a report that outlines the failure mode and reasons why, the video is completely useless to any of us except those of us that need convenient fodder for a ignorant argument.

    Wheel spacers, when properly designed, installed, and maintained are exactly as dangerous as wheels.

    You truck has 5300 bolts holding it together, it really doesn't care about a few more at the wheel and it doesn't care if the wheel bearing has an extra inch of leverage on it. A 1.25" wheel spacer adds a few hundred pounds of additional force to each bearing and hub, which is much less than the force it sees regularly over pot holes, bumps, turns, off-road ...... oooooorrrrr .... putting crap in the back of your truck like it was designed. Are you attacking wheels with increased backspacing? That has the same effect as spacers by adding additional length to the moment arm acting on the bearing and hub.

    It's a dead end argument. When properly designed, installed, and maintained, wheel spacers are perfectly safe.
     
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    Never stack spacers.

    Purchase the width you want from a reputable manufacturer that is hub centric to the hub AS WELL AS ALLOWS THE WHEEL TO MOUNT HUB CENTRIC to the spacer, install correctly, maintain and re-torque every tire rotation, and enjoy endless miles of safe travels with the look you want.
     
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    Just get new wheels with a negative offset
     
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    Absolutely no different than adding spacers, from a load / force / strain standpoint.
     
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    Look at the offset. His wheels are a good 3 inches outside his wheel well. The rims might have some negative offset but seeing where the rotor is (right on the edge of the inner rim) It's probably safe to say that he was using too wide of spacers and that the failure happened at the wheel hub, because we all know that this type of setup puts more strain on the hub and/or bearings.

    I ran 1.25" Spidertrax on my 3rd gen 4Runner for 3 years with no problems.
     
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    Cool?
     
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    Buy reputable, torque to appropriate spec, recheck torque however many miles after install, recheck torque periodically thereafter. Easy as that. I say buy reputable mostly cause sure the spacer itself is usually not an issue expensive or cheap but the studs/lugnuts may be subpar on Amazon/ebay cheapos.

    I’ve run them, and I’ve not run them. Never had an issue.
     
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    .... and I have hundreds of thousands of miles on wheel spacers between my subarus, many jeeps, and tacoma.

    It's never safe to speculate, and even if it were, that is not a spacer problem ... that is a human condition (read: idiocy) problem. IF that was a 3 or 4 or 5 inch spacer with a massively offset wheel, that is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand because it has ben modified and used so far outside of reasonable use and expectation that a failure should be expected. But that is not what any of these threads are asking about. These are reasonable threads asking about reasonable use-cases and the examples of failure, that may or may not be related to spacers, are muddying the waters and nothing but fodder for folks that just don't like spacers and are too lazy to do actual research.

    Had the hub on that white truck been modified in any way to account for those wheels or lift? No way of knowing, but important. Was the hub an OEM hub or OEM spec hub that was being used within spec? Was the upright it was pressed into a factory upright (definitely not)? Was it a cheap Chinese "lift kit" complete with crap quality hubs cast out of beer cans and fords? Was the hub and upright mating surface properly designed to withstand the load that jackhole placed on it?

    It is not a spacer problem.

    Spacers are not the problem, stupid people that install them incorrectly or massively overload them without care or thought are the problem. In our rather litigious society, lawsuit galore would be the rule of land if spacers were anywhere near the reasonable cause of these failures.
     
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    I agree with you. As I said, it's OBVIOUS he was using spacers that were too wide looking at where the rotor is and how far outside of the wheel well the wheels are. So we both agree that the driver of the truck is the dumbass here.
     
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