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Advance Auto discontinuing house brand oil filters

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by FL4x4Taco, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. Jul 13, 2009 at 5:47 AM
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    FL4x4Taco

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    Advance Auto Parts is Discontinuing their line of Oil filters (red advance auto brand). I stopped by and grabbed 4 for my truck and 3 for the wifes car; every thing they had in stock. $1.45 EA filter!!!! I've cut just about every filter out there open. the AAP filters are a white purolator with a touch less filter media. Honestly, it's a great filter. Blows the doors off of Fram. I even think it's better than the OEM toyota filter (non-Denso). I'm running the oversized filter on my truck b/c its the closest to the 4.0 filter size, and I used to run them on my 3.0 also with great results. L20195, AA3600 Etc. thought I'd throw it out there while they still have some stock. Best $1.45 you can spend IMO.

    For a top notch filter on my 4.0 I've been running the FL400S Motorcraft. $3.69, silicone ADBV, awsome bypass valve and location, great media etc.
     
  2. Jul 13, 2009 at 5:50 AM
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    Have you had an oil sample tested??
     
  3. Jul 13, 2009 at 5:52 AM
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    I'm curious how you can make these comparisons as well?

    Sounds awesome, but I'm not much for house brands, not even at Wally world.
     
  4. Jul 13, 2009 at 6:23 AM
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    Cut a few filters open.... you'll see. You couldn't pay me to use a Fram. that and I used to work at AAP during college... they even came out and said their made by purolator, Interals are identical to the white purolator. I also really like WIX filters.. the napa gold line. That's a HD filter right there. I've run a lot of wix in my day too. Not really sure I need oil samples for a 3-5K intervals I've been doing on my cars. I got over 200k out of my 1984 Supra running 10w-40 Dino and a Wix/AAP/Purolator. Sold the car running like a top. I got about 150k out of my 3.0 4runner and sold it runing like a top. I sold my 2nd beater a late 90's 4cyl Malibue with about 160k running great. All running on dino and puolator/AAP/Wix filters. Cut open the regular Toyota 4.0 (correct 4.0 filter is taller than the 3.0/3.4 filter) you'll be amazed what a cheap POS it is. It's a cash cow for yota. Don't let fancy oil fool ya. Look at the API rating, visc and get a well built filter; not a fram. change it regularly and you're engine will out last the car. I really like Syn gear lubes and syn motor oil for cold climates; huge gains there. I even ran 10-30 Dino with a wix/AAP/Purolator in my early 90's corvette. that car saw life 1/4 mile at a time Wide open throttle. Every weekend it was at the drag strip. Internals looked brand-new when I put a intake manifold on it at 100k. never smoked. I've also cared after about 6-8 cars at a time (family cars) and they get the same treatment. guess what? never lost an engine. Car fell apart before the engine. Now why should I spend $60 an oil change vs $13 when the engines are outlasting the car? Mind you that '84 Supra would see 140mph on tracks on the weekdn. Engine was never taken apart other than valve cover gaskets. I also built my wife a '91 Turbo Supra that was never taken apart and ran 10w-40 Dino with a Purolator/wix/AAP. Car rusted before engine broke at 140k. That's more than enough R&D for me. I'll save tons of money and pay the car off, pay the house off, retire early etc.

    the other half is when you sell/trade your car in, does the dealer or person buying it pay you more b/c you used M1 vs mobil clean 5,000 or conventional valvoline or quaker state? Or if it gets wrecked does the insurance pay you more? No. Unless you live where it snows or tow a ton it's a no brainer.

    And it gets better. My brother used to be a guy that had to much money, so he'd give it away to the oil companies. he had a LS1 Trans Am that he babied, never raced it... total grandma garage queen. He did M1 with M1 filters every 3k (what a waste!! But the oil cap said to use M1 man!) and blew a head gasket at 50k, and rocker arms sounded like a broken dishses. Had to trade it in at 60k with the car looking new and the engine falling apart. He has since never made fun of me anymore. He traded that clacky LS1 in on a new Honda and now has 60k miles with 10k intervals (Honda has a oil light system) on AAP filters and 5w-20 Dino.

    That's more R&D than I need. Do as you wish.
     
  5. Jul 13, 2009 at 7:03 AM
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    I'll stick with OEM. For around $5. it's cheep insurance.
     
  6. Jul 13, 2009 at 7:35 AM
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    Insurance? it's a cheap filter internally. that's my point. It's not good regardless of price. Minimal filter, maximum price.
     
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    I'll believe him for now, I don't have money to waste cracking open oil filters.
     
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    I think the main thing is changing the oil regularly. I used fram filters and Pennzoil dino in a 85 Bronco II and it was running great at a 192K when I sold. I used Mobil 1 full synthetic with a fram filter in a 97 Sebring LxI and it too was running great at 191K when I sold it. Inside the valve covers was very clean.
     
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    I've been cutting filters open for 15yrs+. I've spent a lot of time on the Bob is the oil guy forum also, posting some of my cut opens.

    Tonto- you are correct. Changing at proper intervals is the key. Fram filters work but they are cheap internally.
     
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    **vent on**

    Why do people have to critisize everyone for using certain filters??

    Everytime oil filter discussions come up, the criticism is ridiculous.

    It's a personal preference. If someone wants to use a certain filter, LET THEM! They don't deserve to be bashed for using a certain filter.

    People are gonna use other filters - get over it!!

    **vent off**
     
  11. Jul 13, 2009 at 8:01 AM
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    I've seen situations where the fram colapses b/c it's structure is cardboard. That's pretty much the only filter I have issues with. I don't mean to lecture or anything. I just wanted to let other members know they can get a good sale on fileters right now.
     
  12. Jul 13, 2009 at 8:05 AM
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    AAP has been pulling these filters off the shelves for retail sales since the beginning of this year. They are still selling them to jobbers as commercial sales.

    They are made by Purolator and a very good filter for the price.
     
  13. Jul 13, 2009 at 8:37 AM
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    Still got 4 OEM filters in stock so next change is going to be OEM and probably every time afterward. :D:D:D

    I can see the point in saving a buck buying those filters, but for now I'll pass.
     
  14. Jul 13, 2009 at 8:43 AM
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    Use Mobil 1 Extended Life filters. They are guarenteed for 15,000 miles and seem to be working well for me.
     
  15. Jul 13, 2009 at 10:00 AM
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    Mobil doesn't even make their own filter. It's farmed out to Champ labs who makes a lot of filters. Good filter, but way over priced. you can get a $5 napa gold (wix) and it's the same thing.
     
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    Thanks for the info, I will be considering that for my next oil change. $13 is a bit pricey for a oil filter.
     
  17. Jul 13, 2009 at 1:09 PM
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    Um...yeah. $13 is a joke. profit % on that widget are through the roof homie.
     
  18. Jul 13, 2009 at 5:33 PM
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    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1500971&fpart=1
     
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    ^Exactly. Empirical evidence sucks, lol!

    Purolator makes a very good filter. I've cut many a filter open myself. The Motorcraft filters are an excellent choice. There are so many good options out there that there is no reason to bitch and moan because someone doesn't like a brand (I wouldn't use Fram either).
     
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    X2! It works great. After 5k, my oil comes out looking good. I'm happy with it.
     
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