Aftermarket rotors? The OEM's suck

Have EBC rotors and pads on my Nissan, they are excellent.

 

Do us a favor, you have no clue about a 911 and it's design, so just shut up.
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It's Iconic because it has won over 20,000 times since 1964, or since day one, just like the other inferior rear engine cars on the track. Easiest way to get get rid of snap oversteer is "Don't Lift" in the corner. Ask anybody that has owned a Supra or MR2.

The first major change to the 911 suspension was the 993 chassis back in 1995. Today's 991 chassis offers 4 wheel steering and a longer wheelbase (to sell to taller people). Yeah it's better, but it's because Porsche decided long ago the perfect 911 is yet to be built, but this years model is the best so far.

The 911RSR for this year was changed to mid engine so it could utilize a rear diffuser aero setup which every other car manufacturer was doing. Aero cars are faster than non aero cars, simple as that. Why wouldn't a manufacturer change to remain winning. Yeah, this chassis is a winner also. Is it leading the chamionship points, no but power is restricted on it 6 cyl against most of the rest of the field. How many inferior 911's have Won, 24 Hours of LeMans?, Daytona 24hrs?, or 12 Hrs of Sebring? many more than a Toyota has entered.

Oh by the way, the 911 has won the Paris to Dakar rally, one of the toughest off road races in the world. Should I mention how many time Jeff Zwart has won his class in Pikes Peak, or the Monte Carlo Rally.

 

Someone who knows what he is talking about. Mid Engines are great, I've owned one of the best, the 986S, but if it spun, it's saving grace was it would usually stay on the track instead of going off backwards. Same with 944/968 chassis, great balance right up to the point of losing your nerve or talent.

A 911 is driven "slow in" (finish your braking before turning) and then feed it throttle for "Fast out". Once you get this down, the chassis works as designed.

 

My understanding too. The gas that is created between the pad and rotor can redo e braking effectiveness. Doesn't happen on the street.

One thing to remember after using and heating up your brakes....try to avoid coming to a stop before you allow the brakes to cool. When you stop, the area under the pads remains hot. Uneven heating or cooling = bad.

 

Had them on my Gen 2, along with PowerStops, later in mileage. Excellent products, made to deal with the heat buildup

 

Great advice, today's replacement rotors cost not much more than turning them, and you can't turn or cut out hot/hard spots, they will be back in no time.

Euro manufacturers Porsche, MB, BMW warn not to resurface rotors, only replace, when new they are ground flat, not turned. Euro's are masters at metallurgy, not that americans aren't , we just have more bean counters.

 

Drilled and slotted rotors aren't expensive, ask me how I know. Just because you bought a car with over priced parts doesn't mean every drilled and slotted rotor out there is expensive.

My point with mentioning drag racing is there have been people out there that claim heavy braking even for a relatively small amount of time can cause a drilled rotor to crack at the holes. Which is why most people that I know just stick with solid rotors.

Also, I really don't think downshifting would have any noticeable effect on the life of the engine. I can see the transmission, but not the engine. We have seen that engines can last hundreds of thousands of miles if maintained and lubricated properly. That number is not going to drop by any noticeable amount because you decided to downshift instead of using your brakes. And the automatic transmissions in our trucks specifically downshift on their own when you brake. Theres nothing you can really do to avoid it. If it was that bad for your engine or transmission, i doubt Toyota would have implemented it.

 

does the word "corvette" keep you up at night?

 

Come to California. They might change the bathroom signs to accommodate your identity.

Is that to keep the edges from rusting? For looks or is there another purpose?

 

"does the word "corvette" keep you up at night?"

The ones with Drilled rotors or the ones with the Fiberglass rear spring ?

Believe me I heard every joke as my best friend has a new C7 and a Z06 C6.

Corvette's are the best bang for the buck, but the overall package leaves a little to be desired. Great motors, rigid chassis, lots of tire under the fender, but have Impala interiors.

Most Vette's that I see on the tracks close to me, have to have serious modifications to run 25 laps, Oil scavenging, Transmission coolers, replace the factory Brakes. The "Factory race team" have almost always been and are built at a specialty house.

Porsche's factory chassis race cars are built in house and available to everyone who has the money. Porsches are designed to do it all day long.

What model is your Corvette ?

 

Yes, to keep the parts of the rotor that don't come in contact with the brake pad from rusting.

 

Sure, maybe in Berkeley, less chance of that in San Diego, though it’s still high.

 

#humblebrag

 

Back to the OP's question ...
I have 38K on my '16 TRD OR also and brakes are smooth as new. I'm still getting dealer service and when they do the tire rotation they report minimal wear on the pads (and rear lining). I live in the West and we have coastal mountains plus my truck has crossed the Sierras and Rockies multiple times. But I'm probably easy on brakes; I put 140K on my 80 Series Cruiser with original rotors and no problems.

Anyway ...
My previous truck was a T100 (bought used) and after a few K miles in similar usage to what my Tacoma sees, I had horrible vibration, felt through the steering wheel and brake pedal. At one point crossing the Panamint Range near Death Valley I pulled over 'cause I thought I had loose lug nuts or a broken ball joint. When I got home I pulled the front wheels and found uneven wear on the pads. I scuffed up the rotors with coarse sandpaper, cleaned everything with brake cleaner, lubed the caliper and pad sliding surfaces, and replaced the pads with new Akebono pads. The brakes felt like new and stayed that way till I sold the truck at almost 200K miles. The PO had service records and the rotors had never been changed. Just my experiences, but there's a lot of credible info that modern rotors rarely warp; it's uneven pad deposits on the rotors that causes judder. And that was true for me.

 

I was more or less giving you a hard time. I respect Porsches. There's no denying they are fine cars. But I've always been a fan of muscle cars. Especially when they can be had for so cheap.

I have a 4th generation f-body. Its a Z28 with an ls1 engine, 6 speed manual. Its just a street car that I drive around in for fun when I don't feel like driving my boring truck. Its not the greatest or fastest car in the world but it will throw my ass to the back of the seat which is why I love it.

 

As a 60 YO, my first cars were small block Chevy's 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 , a 66 Nova , 67 Camaro SS 327, 68 SS 350-300.
Been to US Nationals since 1975 almost every year and still go now as it's only 1 hour away.

After the Service 1980 bought my first Yota and later MB, never looked back.

like I said my best friend has 2, another close friend build C3's with custom chassis w C6 guts all the way to the dashboard.
Six figure cars, to nice to drive.

15 years ago I bought my first Porsche 944 16 Valve, hooked ever since. They're light, handle and stop.
I do all my own work even today on everything. I've got more money in Snap On than my 911 which since buying the TRD is turned into a garage queen for the past month, I recently put Bilsteins and HR Springs and Sway bars on it but have tracked it since. maybe later this month.

No offense taken.

Mike

 

My previous vehicle I've had brake shudder for a day after a track event. The material came off though and the brakes were fine later on.

 

So basically OEM rotors suck. Drinks for all!

 

So do most OEM Pads, who likes brake dust ?

 

don't get drilled they can stress crack, slotted is your best bet if want to steer away from heat warping. if you want to dish out some coin for willwoods or stoptechs those are top notch. ebcs are a solid choice too for the money.