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AGM battery help

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by .jake, Dec 7, 2020.

  1. Dec 7, 2020 at 5:49 PM
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    SRBenjamin

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    Ya, and I've already posted it. 13 volts is more than fully charged.
     
  2. Dec 7, 2020 at 5:52 PM
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    Oof and fail.
     
  3. Dec 7, 2020 at 5:53 PM
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    That isn't enough to fully charge an AGM battery, professor.
     
  4. Dec 7, 2020 at 5:56 PM
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    As far as I know there are two makers of lower cost AGM. If you know better? spell it out.

    I know Enersys makes them, but not low cost. The odyssey in my LC cost $300.
     
  5. Dec 7, 2020 at 6:01 PM
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    That's the voltage at my battery after the engine has been off for 15~20 minutes.
    A fully charged AGM is 12.8 volts.

    Learn to read.
     
  6. Dec 7, 2020 at 6:05 PM
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    Exide? As far as telling others to read, might want to take a page out of your own book.

    And another one bites the dust.
     
  7. Dec 7, 2020 at 6:16 PM
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    I dont troll, just state the facts. 30+ years of running AGM batteries. Sometimes I'm ashamed I own a Tacoma after driving 80's and 90's Toyota trucks/LandCruisers.

    What Toyota has done to the brand is shameful. But Toyota is still better than the other brands, so I'll stick with them.

    I'll state it one more time. AGM can handle more voltage and charge faster, but they don't need more voltage. They will charge just fine with 13.7~8 volts.
     
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  8. Dec 7, 2020 at 6:16 PM
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    My Deka manufactured AGM battery will show 12.6 - 12.7 30 minutes after shutting off after 8 hours of driving, maybe your multimeter is more optimistic than mine.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2020 at 6:19 PM
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    been so long since I've seen an Exide, I forgot. So three makers of cheap AGM's.
     
  10. Dec 7, 2020 at 6:20 PM
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    My Fluke 27 tells no lies.
     
  11. Dec 7, 2020 at 6:20 PM
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    You are running a Deka Intimidator AGM in your Taco? What group size? I can't find a 27F in their catalog, that's the one I want.
     
  12. Dec 7, 2020 at 6:23 PM
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    No, just a lowly Duralast Platinum AGM. Well actually two of them with a Redarc BCDC.

    edit: my bad, I though Deka manufactured East Penn batteries but it's the other way around apparently.
     
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  13. Dec 7, 2020 at 8:36 PM
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    Im running 2 Northstar NSB-AGM27s and a Redarc BCDC + solar. Got the vfTuner ECU voltage maps changed to provide a service charge of 14.6V to the batteries. Lasts for ages with the fridge on.
     
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  14. Dec 7, 2020 at 8:37 PM
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    Ok so the consensus is an AGM will charge fine off the stock alt output, not to optimum levels, but well enough. Any input on the heat tolerance of AGM’s?

    Honestly guys I’m not super bent on this. I’m a curious person. I mostly want to know the pro’s and cons since for me it’s a new type of battery. If there’s a benefit then I can weigh the cost bump. So far I’m not sure of any real benefit, unless of course it tolerates heat better.
     
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  15. Dec 7, 2020 at 8:39 PM
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    It doesnt look like youre doing anything that requires an AGM.

    Just buy a lead acid.

    /Thread closed
     
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  16. Dec 7, 2020 at 8:43 PM
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    This^
     
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  17. Dec 7, 2020 at 8:43 PM
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    You don’t know me so why don’t you instead be helpful and cite some benefits instead of acting like the gatekeeper to the AGM club
     
  18. Dec 7, 2020 at 8:46 PM
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    Have you considered a Lithium battery since we are taking new batteries.
     
  19. Dec 7, 2020 at 9:15 PM
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    So, you're saying you know better than the engineers at Northstar? Because I've talked directly to them and the minimum charge voltage is 14.2v @ 25C, with ideal charge voltage at 14.4v, +/- 18mV per C difference. Float voltage is 13.2v-13.8v, with ideal charge at 13.6V @ 25C.

    I think I'm going to listen to the Northstar people over some random dip on TW, lol.
     
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  20. Dec 7, 2020 at 9:15 PM
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    Ive given you plenty of information about what you need to do to get it properly charged...

    Why dont you tell us what youre going to use them for instead? That should have been posted already.
     

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