1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Air Force dumped hundreds of remains of dead soldiers from Dover base into landfill

Discussion in 'Military' started by cc350, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM
    #1
    cc350

    cc350 [OP] Buckeye Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2010
    Member:
    #44527
    Messages:
    893
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chas
    Liberty,Twp Ohio
    Vehicle:
    06 PreRunner TRD DC
    TRex3 eyelids,Undercover hardshell cover,Timbrens
    This pisses me off to no end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:



    Hundreds of pieces of dead American soldiers were incinerated by Air Force officials and then dumped in a Virginia landfill, for the first time putting hard numbers on the grisly scandal that has rocked the military's largest mortuary, according to a report.
    The Washington Post reported Wednesday that at least 976 body parts of 274 U.S. soldiers recovered from war zones abroad were ditched in a Kings County, Va., dump after arriving at Dover Air Base between 2004 and 2008.
    In nearly every case, the heroes' families, which had authorized the military to handle the soldiers' remains, had no idea that their loved ones' ashes were unceremoniously trashed, the Post report said.
    The Air Force came clean about the practice last month after whistleblowers complained about sloppy work at Dover, the main entry for fallen soldiers coming from battlefields overseas.
    But it had refused to reveal how many remains went into the landfill, saying that tallying the parts and trying to match them with the more than 6,300 bodies that have passed through Dover would require "massive effort and time," one Pentagon official said, according to the Post.
    The Air Force finally released some numbers to the Washington newspaper this week.
    In addition to the remains that were matched up with dead soldiers, 1,762 unidentified remains were thrown into the landfill.
    In total, more than 2,700 incinerated body parts were chucked, according to Air Force records - though that number may just be the tip of the iceberg.
    One military widow told the Post that a mortuary official told her that the Air Force had been throwing cremated remains in landfills since at least 1996.
    The Air Force said it has no plans to tell the families of the soldiers' whose body parts were identified.
    The mortuary stopped the landfill dumping in 2008 and began burying unidentified soldiers remains at sea from aboard Navy ships.


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...andfill-report-article-1.988592#ixzz1fyppHQrd
     
  2. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:27 PM
    #2
    Jester243

    Jester243 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Member:
    #7552
    Messages:
    9,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dan
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2008 Doublecab 4x4 IRP
    Lifetime LED 70W headlights 10-8-14 (set #2) Sylvania Silverstar fogs, front side windows tinted 27% to match the others, added Tacomaworld.com sticker, suspension TSB as of 7-21-09, Devil Horns by Andres, BFG's, Alpine with Bluetooth and Ipod contols, Rear view mirror relocation bracket, Ultragauge...
    that makes me sick
     
  3. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:33 PM
    #3
    RV7Garage

    RV7Garage R.O.U.S.

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2009
    Member:
    #22358
    Messages:
    630
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    Ill Annoy
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCSB Offroad, Nautical Blue
    Disable DRL, Jailbreak Fog Lights, ARE topper
    I served my country. Now, I am ready to leave it.
     
  4. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:37 PM
    #4
    Aw9d

    Aw9d That one guy

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2011
    Member:
    #66635
    Messages:
    12,337
    Gender:
    Male
    Wow that is pretty fucked up.
     
  5. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:37 PM
    #5
    carcharias

    carcharias Giggiddy what what

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2011
    Member:
    #48988
    Messages:
    4,681
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    '11 AC MGM OR
    Kings all-around w/ 700lb coils, Dakar leaf pack, TC uca's, DO single hoop bumper, BAMF bolt-on sliders w/ kickouts, Rigid 20" e-series spot/flood, aFe pro-dry, BFG KM2 255/85/16, silver TRD FJ wheels, WARN M8000-s, Access LE, Grillcraft, BAMF lightbar, BAMF rear dif skid, BAMF LCA skids, window tint, Wet Okoles, WeatherTech floorliners, Silverstar lights, led dome lights, Redline Tuning hood struts, center console lock mod, mag-lite mod, extra d-rings, re-routed exhaust, ATO skids, ATO Hi-Lift mounts, pipe tailgate lock, seatbelt alarm delete, wheel/spare locks, Viper 5901, LoJack... WISHLIST: a golden canary that poops platinum
  6. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM
    #6
    TacomaPrime

    TacomaPrime Cybertronian Tacoma

    Joined:
    May 20, 2011
    Member:
    #56955
    Messages:
    1,589
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Illinois
    Vehicle:
    05 Prerunner SR5 TRD off road
    Wow. just wow.
     
  7. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM
    #7
    ShawnR

    ShawnR Roads?? We don't need no stinkin' roads...

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2010
    Member:
    #43209
    Messages:
    245
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Shawn
    Denver
    Vehicle:
    10 Taco TRD OR access cab
    PIAA driving lights,Pioneer AVH-P3300BT stereo with HD radio and Axxess steering wheel control adapter,rearview mirror mod,ReTrax rolling cover,Demello front bumper,WeatherTech,10 inch woofer,500 watt amp,CB in armrest, heated Wet Okole seat covers,Spidertrax spacers, ARB twin compressor,Ikon 10,500lb wireless winch,A-pillar RAM mount,Pull-Pal,electric locking tailgate
    EVERYONE INVOLVED should be fired, and lose any pension benefits. Period.
    I can't begin to say what I would like to do to each one of them.
     
  8. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM
    #8
    BlueTaco07

    BlueTaco07 Super Mod!

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2011
    Member:
    #48598
    Messages:
    2,422
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Panama city, Florida
    Vehicle:
    Looking
    Its called respect. Something that these men & women gave to their country and deserve just as much in return. America treats its citizens like a joke :mad:
     
  9. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM
    #9
    Sunner

    Sunner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2011
    Member:
    #66659
    Messages:
    1,935
    Gender:
    Male
    That is pretty heartless, what could they have done though? Do you guys think they should have taken the time to match the parts up with bodies, I have no military experience so ide imagine it would be pretty hard, this still doesnt justify it though.
     
  10. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM
    #10
    blackhawke88

    blackhawke88 wo ai ni bao bei ^_^

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2009
    Member:
    #12478
    Messages:
    16,873
    Gender:
    Male
    SGV, CA
    Vehicle:
    07 TRD Offroad
    Jesus....
     
  11. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM
    #11
    Sunner

    Sunner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2011
    Member:
    #66659
    Messages:
    1,935
    Gender:
    Male
    Ohhhh I didnt read where they threw away identified remains too, yeah that is just wrong
     
  12. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:51 PM
    #12
    707tothe907

    707tothe907 Superior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    Member:
    #45372
    Messages:
    2,713
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jake
    Chico NorCal
    Vehicle:
    05 DCSB Off Road
    Not saying i agree with what they did but to anyone that this pisses off: what do you expect them to do with all those ashes?
     
  13. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:53 PM
    #13
    Blackshirts

    Blackshirts Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2010
    Member:
    #32057
    Messages:
    3,908
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    TX
    Vehicle:
    09 PreRunner
    Headlight mod, sound system. MB Motor Sport Rims. Black Tails. 5100's, 885, grill craft, Fogs, N-Fab Step Sides. BFG TKO Tires, Wet Oks, LED map lights and dome, LED gauge mod
    Oh dear....

    :pray:
     
  14. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:54 PM
    #14
    BSPDX

    BSPDX Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Member:
    #16048
    Messages:
    2,077
    Gender:
    Male
    That's fucked up plain and simple...
     
  15. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:55 PM
    #15
    Jester243

    Jester243 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Member:
    #7552
    Messages:
    9,393
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dan
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2008 Doublecab 4x4 IRP
    Lifetime LED 70W headlights 10-8-14 (set #2) Sylvania Silverstar fogs, front side windows tinted 27% to match the others, added Tacomaworld.com sticker, suspension TSB as of 7-21-09, Devil Horns by Andres, BFG's, Alpine with Bluetooth and Ipod contols, Rear view mirror relocation bracket, Ultragauge...

    They are burying them at sea now. They never should have been tossed in a dump like trash.
     
  16. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM
    #16
    FixedTRD

    FixedTRD Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2009
    Member:
    #20511
    Messages:
    2,111
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Will
    Alhambra, CA
    All pro LT, All pro front bumper,All pro rear fox, 1.5 full leaf and u bolt flip kit. KR sliders, bestop, high lift with custom mount, katskin leather, Hankook MT and atx artillery. DMZ SUA w/FOX triple bypass
    That is just so wrong.
     
  17. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM
    #17
    Lost_Humanity

    Lost_Humanity Bad decisions make great stories.

    Joined:
    May 8, 2010
    Member:
    #36774
    Messages:
    1,513
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle
    Vehicle:
    It's a Toyota.
    Bumper Dent Mod
    Since 2008 they've been burying them at sea. Probably should have been doing that the whole time.

    The article says that the families of the ID'd members allowed the Air Force to dispose of the remains -- and I believe they were informed that it would be through cremation.

    I believe in most circumstances, the remains were of the sort which are not easily identifiable, nor particularly suitable for an open casket (trying to put this delicately).

    Still. Spend the extra time & money to have them placed on a vessel and buried at sea with a succinct ceremony. It's the least you can do for the men & women who died fighting for the nation.
     
  18. Dec 8, 2011 at 1:57 PM
    #18
    cc350

    cc350 [OP] Buckeye Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2010
    Member:
    #44527
    Messages:
    893
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chas
    Liberty,Twp Ohio
    Vehicle:
    06 PreRunner TRD DC
    TRex3 eyelids,Undercover hardshell cover,Timbrens
    ^^^^^Military cemetery or disperse ashes at sea would of been the right thing to do!!
     
  19. Dec 8, 2011 at 2:04 PM
    #19
    scocar

    scocar being weird again....still

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2009
    Member:
    #25814
    Messages:
    23,319
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Glitterdick
    In close proximity to an undisclosed location
    Vehicle:
    15 DCLB x4 SR5, 01 Xcab TRD x4 V6 Man. SR5
    01: OME 881s, Dakars, greasable shackles, Nitrocharger sports, extended exhaust hanger, BAMF BPV relocate, Wheeler's extended brake line, rear diff breather mod, swaybar removed, Pilot backup lights, Redline hood struts, 4Runner 5-stars, Hidden Hitch Class III, 7-pin marine-grade wiring
    Treat them with respect. This VVV
    or find some other provision on land such as a designated area within a military cemetary, rather than treating them like disposal diapers.
     
  20. Dec 8, 2011 at 2:07 PM
    #20
    Unzapato

    Unzapato Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    Member:
    #67236
    Messages:
    127
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Randy
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    My 3rd Tacoma
    Blank slate - brand new!
    That just sucks. Our government is so damn corrupt at every level it makes me sick.
     
To Top