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aircraft maintainers

Discussion in 'Military' started by cabarbhab, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. Jan 30, 2010 at 4:51 PM
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    RAF Harrier GR.7, serial ZD464. It crashed on 02 August 2002 at Lowestoft Seafront Air Festival, UK. The cause was pilot error as detailed in the accident investigation report. "The inquiry concluded that the accident was caused by the failure to select the nozzle control lever to the "Hover Stop" following an inadvertent nozzle lever movement."
     
  2. Jan 30, 2010 at 6:41 PM
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    pilot error, hmmm... back to human factors class to get more training
     
  3. Jan 30, 2010 at 6:48 PM
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    I found one reference that his sleeve got caught on the nozzle control lever while moving the throttle to mil power to began his departure. The nozzles rotated taking away the lift without sufficient forward speed for wing lift.

    G
     
  4. Jan 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM
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    Okay....I'll go with a simple "You are wrong."
     
  5. Jan 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM
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    I was just guessing
    but from your negative reply's to my post
    wait.... nope still don't care
     
  6. Jan 31, 2010 at 5:18 AM
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    Guessing pretty much = talking out of your ass. (Evidence: Mishap had nothing to do with fuel consumption.)
    I think I was pretty fair with my first post. Second one-You asked for that-I just deliver.

    I missed where your experiences with aviation are posted btw...
     
  7. Jan 31, 2010 at 5:29 AM
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  8. Jan 31, 2010 at 5:33 AM
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    LOL. To be honest I thought there was going to be a typical maintainer versus pilot reason he thought that Harrier ran outta gas- You know the old "Dumb ass pilots don't know how bad they break these planes when they use them and then they can't even keep enuf gas in them to fly" and "Lazy maintainers can't fix shit right the first time" type stuff....but it appears I was wrong.
    Just a dumbass making bad guesses. ::shrug::
     
  9. Jan 31, 2010 at 5:35 AM
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    It sounded like one of you is a pilot.
     
  10. Jan 31, 2010 at 5:45 AM
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    Guilty as charged....
    If I could work on them after I break them I would...but they don't let me.
     
  11. Jan 31, 2010 at 5:46 AM
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    We have a mutual respect for our flight crews. They take a plane up for a check flight after we have torn it apart and put it back together during a heavy check, putting all their trust in us that it will operate correctly. At times we will joke with them about "do you need any more crayons to finish your flight log," but both sides know how important the other is.
     
  12. Jan 31, 2010 at 5:49 AM
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    True that- I know there are some from both sides that have a true mistrust or frustration with the other camp. But knowing that everyone is on the same team- trust should abound.
    And the limited number of mishaps compared to flights hours and mission type is a testament to that...
     
  13. Jan 31, 2010 at 8:06 AM
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    I always tell my maintainers that we're always waiting on maintenance... :laugh:

    They have a harder job that I do... they come in early to prep the aircraft... I take it up, fly it all day and then give it back to them at the end of the day.. then they have to postflight it...

    rinse, repeat the next day...

    of course, when I'm up flying all day, they're screwing around... :laugh:
     
  14. Jan 31, 2010 at 1:21 PM
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    I missed where your experiences with aviation are posted btw...

    I have my green cards


    thanks for being a dick and the neg. rep again
     
  15. Jan 31, 2010 at 3:14 PM
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    A scan eagle almost flew into me couple months back. Flew 100 ft below me and even the passengers saw it. By the time i saw it, it was too late to evade. He was at helo altitude for some reason (climbing through perhaps) Those things are pretty cool though.
     
  16. Jan 31, 2010 at 3:54 PM
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    Pilots and thier attitudes. Been fixing thier mishaps for 32 years, latest pilot put gear handle up to early destroying lower ventrals. He was showing off for well endowed girlfriend. before that one turned off antiskid blew tire on landing. this all in just the last 9 months, dont have enough space to tell all that i've seen.
     
  17. Jan 31, 2010 at 8:15 PM
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    Yikes! That's kinda scary. Yeah, I've heard of that happening on several occasions actually. This past year, an HH-60G crew in Bastion flew right into a Scan Eagle that was on final aproach. HH-60G 1/Scan Eagle 0. The helo had some damage to the blades, but the Scan Eagle was destroyed. I'm glad I was not the operator, even if the helo crew was at fault. They were not where tower instructed them to be.

    Where I was operating last year, our altitude blocks were typically 5 to 8k. Helo's were always below us.
     
  18. Feb 1, 2010 at 3:51 AM
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    I gave you a reasonable comment and you wanna throw back a useless/dick comment and then blame me for being a dick- I think not (I'm not sure unspeculate is a word either)

    Enjoy the "Neg" rep-You earned it asshat.

    And just so the point isn't lost- You are still wrong with your shitty guess.
     
  19. Feb 1, 2010 at 3:57 AM
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    hmm... Are you NSWG? :)
     
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    Strangly enough thats good to hear. I was thinking a scan eagle would reek havoc on us. Im sure it depends on how they collide, airspeed etc. The hardest thing is that all those uavs are very difficult to see until its too late and where we were our tower operators werent familiar with having them in their airspace. Eventually they started announcing that the traffic was a uav and it was funny to hear all the helos say they were leaving/staying on the ground/waiting for the uav to clear.
     
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