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Alignment 1/8 of Turn of Tie Equals Much Toe ??

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TacoBell07, Sep 8, 2024.

  1. Sep 8, 2024 at 8:14 PM
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    TacoBell07

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    If adjust the tie rods out giving less toe what amount of turns of tie rod equal adjustment of the front wheels?
    In other words I am slightly too much toe trying to get 1/16 in total toe, however if I adjust each tie rod to push each wheel towards being a little straighter how much of a turn of the tie rod would i need.
    Trying to adjust each tie rod so each wheel is 0.5/16 straighter.
     
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    In all seriousness you can string it. Google is your friend. Best backwoods way other than eyeing down the side for toe in or out. I dought anyone has ever memorized how much of a turn is spacific to a 2005 Tacoma toe adjustment. Thats just not how its done.
     
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    1/8th isnt much, but I've done thousands of alignments and couldnt tell you how much impact it really has.
     
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    Yeah, that small of an adjustment boils down to the minuscule details like how worn the threads are, exactly how precisely they’re manufactured, any dirt or grit in the treads, etc. we’re talking about approx 1/8th the width of a single thread here.

    Will 1/8 turn make a difference? Technically yes. But a very small one, with the exact value being specific to each individual truck.
     
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    A small difference is what i need, right now its barely visible on the outside edge of the front tires. This tells me i have slightly too much toe in so i was going to try a small adjustment and watch it instead of taking hours trying to measure and adjust. And yes i know this is not the right way but its so close now thats why im trying this way.
     
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    Scratch head...

    So you want precision results but too lazy to do what it takes?

    Work quality can be like money.
    Some people will spend a dollor to save a penny
     
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    if you’re getting visible wear on your tires, I don’t think the alignment is as close as you think it is. And 1/8 of a turn is such a tiny adjustment that it may not make any difference at all. Each individual vehicle is different. How worn your bushings/rod ends/etc are, who manufactured your tie rods, etc etc all play into it.

    That’s why techs put em on a computerized laser alignment rack and dial it in slowly with a precise readout. Otherwise you’re just shooting in the dark/pissing into the wind.

    as said above, the string method works pretty well to get toe in the ballpark. I’ve done it plenty of times, just to get it drivable enough to make it to a shop for a proper alignment. But it’s not precise or reliable enough for a permanent fix. Unless you have unlimited time (and tire money) for trial and error.
     
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    Adjusted both tie rods about a 1/8 turn looser (more toed out). Will rotate tires to unworn tires and monitor to if the same scrub wear occurs on the outside edge of the tires.
     
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    I turn it until it's where I want it
     
  10. Sep 12, 2024 at 9:33 PM
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    just a few things.
    Worn rack or lca, turning left and right not rotating tires will also wear your tire.
     
  11. Sep 16, 2024 at 9:45 AM
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    Replaced all LCA bushings with poly ones so thats fine. Now with 300K on the vehicle my rack might not be unworn i guess LOL
     
  12. Sep 16, 2024 at 10:07 AM
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    I believe the thread pitch of the tie rods are 1.5mm. 1/8th of a turn = .1875mm. if you do both sides = .375mm.

    Spindle pivot axis to tie rod is ~ 1/3rd of the raidus of the outer edge of a stock size tire. .375 x 3 = 1.125mm difference at the outer edge of ONE side of the tire, total toe difference between front and back will be ~
    2.25mm
     
  13. Sep 16, 2024 at 8:15 PM
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    What do you mean spindle pivot axis to tie rod is 1/3 of the radius. Extended the tie rods 1/8 turn on each side so how would not be 1/4 in or 0.25 in toed in total ??
     

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