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Alignment.. how bad is it? :/

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by timbobzimbob, Apr 14, 2016.

  1. Apr 14, 2016 at 3:12 PM
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    Just got new rims today, for whatever reason truck started pulling to the right big time, went to get an alignment from local shop and apparently the alignment was indeed off (on the right side at least). After watching the guy take a torch to some stuck bolts and cussing and hammering away at something he ended up with these numbers, is this okay or are my tires going to shred themselves lol, I'm not familiar with alignment #s....

    truck has 1.75" bilstein lift with stock size tires, stock UCAs obviously

     
  2. Apr 14, 2016 at 11:02 PM
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    Yikes! Thats caster/camber. Your tires aren't going to ride flat and even that's for sure.
     
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    Your caster is way low. Tires will wear fine but you'll be struggling to keep truck in lane flying down highway. Only real way to fix this with that lift is adjustable upper control arms. Can't dial in enough with factory. Sorry
     
  4. Apr 15, 2016 at 9:18 AM
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    Well I'll drop the ball on the UCAs, i've read up on them before, will probably go with light racing UCAs and will get OME 885 springs at the same time and have yet another alignment..

    What are your guys' thoughts on the light racing UCAs? I see that they're now selling them with grease zerks which is a big + with all the salt and shit around here, and sometimes a little mud :)

    And if anybody has any advice, are there any good vendors in Canada that sell the UCAs or even the OME 885s so I'm not buying directly from the states? (gonna have to bite the bullet with the canadian dollar :/)
     
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    I think it's more of frozen bolts issues. I have been able to dial in around 1.7+ of caster on 1.75" 5100's setting on a couple of my trucks while maintaining zero camber/toe. The Light Racing UCA's will help but might not be able to dial in desired setting if they can't move the caster/camber bolts in the LCA's.
     
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    Yeah the guy was definitely having issues, however the LCAs are brand new, just got the frame replaced about a year ago, been krown'd before the winter as well.. Everything should be new and fresh down there. Would you suggest only Light Racing or are there other companies I should consider? Thanks :D
     
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    Screenshot_2016-04-15-19-03-20.jpg just did 5100some today and dial her in just fine u have other issues
     
  8. Apr 16, 2016 at 5:43 AM
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    Agree caster is way low. I have Billy's with OME 885s and was able to 2.4 and keep decent camber. Stock UCAs.
     
  9. Apr 16, 2016 at 5:53 AM
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    There really is no ideal area for caster depends on ur driving style if u are in town more u want low caster if u ride on the highway a lot u want lower caster but u always want ur driver side higher by .2 to .4 to make up for the crown of the road
     
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    Agree but caster that low will wander and grab every imperfection in the road - call it twitchy I guess. That's what I found post-lift. Can't imagine twitchy being anyone's style!

    To your point - I was told get 3.0 caster but couldn't get there with stock UCAs. 2.4 worked for me and had a way better feel than the -1 pre-alignment. Good point on the road crown adjustment. I need to go back and have mine tweaked a bit as I have a bit of occasional drifting. .2 sounds like it might do the trick.
     
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    I'm really considering buying the OME 885 springs and swapping the old coils out, will then set the shocks back to the 0" setting.

    In your opinion, should I drop the $500 on the aftermarket UCAs (turns into like $800 with CAD currency and shipping) and 885s OR

    should I get just the OME 885 springs and get another alignment aiming for those numbers with 2.5 caster? With 1.75"ish of lift in the front shooting for those numbers is by no means unrealistic... right?
     
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    I would honestlyrics buy some new camera bolts replace ur lcaster bushings get the the u case for sure if u can afford them I just can't afford them now I will be getting them and the HD coils when u get my bumper built and winch as long as u can get ur caster above 1.5 driver and 1.7 passenger u will be good for a while
     
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    My damn auto correct take over but u get what I mean lol
     
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    Not unrealistic. Every truck is different though. Seems to be some wiggle room when doing alignment numbers. I have no experience with adjustable Billy's and stock coils. I went right to 885s. I am happy with the results but will add UCAs at some point. Just dumped my mod fund on an avid light bar and grille. Now to save for lights..... Then UCAs.

    When I was doing my research I wanted to get away from stock springs if I was upgrading the shocks. Just a personal preference I guess - many are running the same setup.
     
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    I've had both stock coils with 5100's and OME coils. The OME coils ride a lot better than pre-loaded stock springs whether they are the linear or progressive.
     
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    For adjustability, I suggest Light Racing.
     
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    Thank you very much for the advice, that's probably what I'll end up doing then. I'm gonna go look up how hard it is to install the aftermarket UCAs myself.

    just to confirm, the alignment numbers i'd want with aftermarket ucas with OME 885s and bilsteins at 0 would be 0, 0, 2.5?
     
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    UCA's are simple. The hardest part is getting that long bolt out then back in. There will be some bending of the engine body panel if you want to re-use the bolts unless you want to cut the bolt heads and buy new bolts. Zero setting for the 5100's with 885. Caster at +2.5-3, zero camber/toe.

    Also, torque for the long bolts is 85ft lbs if I remember correctly and truck has to be under its own weight when torquing.
     
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    Yep, that's ideal.
     
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    well, got light racing ucas in and ome 885s

    new alignment numbers from today are..
    caster 2.9 and 2.8
    camber 0.8 and 0.6 -_- is this "really" bad?
    toe 0.05 and 0.05

    so my question is, is .8 positive camber way too much considering the aftermarket ucas
     

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