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Alignment issue

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by betz.steven, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM
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    betz.steven

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    So the dealer says the highest they can go with the caster is 1.8 leftside and 1.4 rightside, and state its because it wont adjust any further? Is there truth to this?
     
  2. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM
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    Did you lift the front suspension? If so, then yes that is a common problem. You can leave it the way it is (Won't wear tires, but may have a wandering problem at higher speeds). Or you can get aftermarket UCAs (Upper Control Arms) to correct the issue.
     
  3. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:27 PM
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    Already have TC UCAS
     
  4. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM
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    What kind of lift?
     
  5. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM
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  6. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM
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  7. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM
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    Unless you have those coilovers cranked to the max there should not be an issue getting enough caster with TCS UCAs installed.
     
  8. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM
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    chris4x4

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    X2. I have a 3" lift Running the TC UCA's and I have 2.8* caster.
     
  9. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM
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    I'm pretty sure they are screwing something up...cause I think caster higher than that is factory normal at stock ride height- and with TC UCAs there are screwing the pooch.
     
  10. Dec 16, 2009 at 3:55 PM
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    New alignment shop I suggest
     
  11. Dec 16, 2009 at 4:26 PM
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    it was the dealer. hold on i'm home now i'll scan them in and post the reason they said they couldnt get it.
     
  12. Dec 16, 2009 at 4:35 PM
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    Quote, "MAINT SET ALL ANGLES TO PROPER SPEC. WITH LIFT KIT. COULD NOT GET CAMBER AND CASTER RIGHT TO CUSTOMERS SPEC WITH RUINING THE ASSENTRIC WHICH IS USED TO ADJUST CASTER AND CAMBER. VEHICLE IS IN SPECIFICATION. *NOTE* TIRES ARE VERY AGRESSIVE TO ROAD SURFACE"

    ????????

    Alignment 12-16-09.jpg
     
  13. Dec 16, 2009 at 4:38 PM
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    I am wondering what is the caster specifications, min. and max. they were trying to hit?

    I am looking at my dealer print out and it shows: 1.34* min. and 2.84* max.

    I had a 3" Coilover lift w/o UCAs and they got them in spec.

    I am just trying to understand this stuff.
     
  14. Dec 16, 2009 at 4:39 PM
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    you and me both man
     
  15. Dec 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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    WTF?? Your running TC UCA's??
     
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    If you have the TC UCAs, then try a different alignment tech with more experience.
     
  17. Dec 16, 2009 at 4:44 PM
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    yeah TC UCA's, it was a pointless battle with them, they read the reason off the paper first and then said that to put it at 2.4 would be out of their specs??? WTF!?!
     
  18. Dec 16, 2009 at 4:55 PM
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    is there any logic to their argument?
     
  19. Dec 16, 2009 at 4:59 PM
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    When they saw your lift and tires, they probably became lazy and did not bother to adjust them some more. Just go to another alignment shop and ask for a 2.4 to 2.8 caster.
     
  20. Dec 16, 2009 at 5:15 PM
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    god i hate the dealership! so there is no damage that could be done by taking them to 2.4? i hate to have to pay for another alignment.
     
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