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Alignment Problem

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by nad, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. Aug 26, 2009 at 8:59 AM
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    So last week I had my 5100's installed at 2.5 and my camber was completely off after. This week I took my truck to have it aligned and when I went to pick it up I noticed that the camber was still off and my wheels still looked like they were in closer to the middle of the truck on the bottom. So I asked the mechanic about it and he said he got it into spec but it wasnt perfect because my truck was too rusty and he didnt want to do what ever he was doing anymore in fear that he might break something. I dont know exactly how this works but does this sound right on a 4-5 year old truck? If this is the case that my truck is too rusty then idk how long I will be keeping it for.

    So basically what I am wondering is, should my front tires be completely aligned up and down after raising to 2.5 or am I never going to be able to get the tires straight without something like a diff drop?

    I did notice that the small vibes I was getting before are now gone tho which is a good thing.
     
  2. Aug 26, 2009 at 9:15 AM
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    I don't think they are ever exactly up and down. Someone else will chime in, but I thought I remembered hearing that. You might ask him for your alignment numbers though, you can compare them to others. There is plenty of posts about what the correct numbers are for an alignment. Good thing the vibe is gone. New UCA's and a diffdrop would probably get you 100% accurate on your alignment but at 2.5 you should be good without them.

    Now the rust that is another issue...I would have them look at that. 4 year old truck with that much rust sounds like an issue.
     
  3. Aug 26, 2009 at 9:19 AM
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    If they use a lot of salt in the winter then it is going to be normal. If you mechanic was concerned about breaking something due to rust, then he should be concerned about you driving it in that condition. It sounds like he didn't want to deal with breaking the nuts loose (lazy). Throw up some pics of the front end if you can.
     
  4. Aug 26, 2009 at 9:21 AM
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    Get under your truck and look at the cam adjusters. They are located on the lower control arms, front and rear, each side. They are the only thing that could be 'rusty' which would inhibit his ability to properly align the truck. I have a good feeling he is full of shit.

    Also, he should be able to easily get your camber well within spec. It is your caster that will be slightly off without new UCAs.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Aug 26, 2009 at 9:28 AM
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    x2 on the "full of shit"
     
  6. Aug 26, 2009 at 9:44 AM
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    Ok when I am done work I will put up a pic, this type of shit always happens to me everywhere I go, and this guy has been doing wheel alignments for like 40 years so I thought he might be good, I was told he was the best in town and cheapest so thats why I went to him.
     
  7. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM
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    so this is what it looks like, if you ask me its not too rusty, infact that is mud you see in the pic not rust and, there is undercarriage coat sprayed on the thingys
     
  8. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM
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    is there anyway I can adjust this myself so that I dont have to take it back to the shop?
     
  9. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:28 PM
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    What's the position of the other cam bolt? Does it look like it is in the same position or close to it? I don't rust either.
     
  10. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM
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    Most shops use a machine to do it. It really isn't something you do at home.
     
  11. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:33 PM
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    +1- The last time I was @ the alignment shop we were working on fixing angles on the order of .04 of a degree...It's really hard to get that kind of precision with the string and stick tricks people used to use.

    If it's not right you should be able to go back and get them to fix it...
     
  12. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:39 PM
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    the other side looks very similar in position, if you ask me it doesnt look like he even got the bolt to move, the coating that is sprayed over it has not been broken along the seem
     
  13. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:42 PM
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    so what should I do?
     
  14. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM
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    Two options:

    1. As Brunes stated, you should be able to have it redone at no cost. Tell him you are not happy and yould like to have it redone.

    or

    2. Have it redone somewhere else.
     
  15. Aug 26, 2009 at 4:50 PM
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    Make sure you get the numbers this time.
     
  16. Aug 26, 2009 at 5:20 PM
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    alright I took some more pics, to me underneath it looks like it could be adjusted to push the bottom of the tire out from the center of the truck. Im pretty sure what happened was the rear two adjustments on both the left and the right were sprayed with undercarriage coat and he didnt even bother trying to move them. so he just moved the front two to get the caster right.

    Do you guys think this looks right, I should be able to get my tires better than this after only a 2.5 lift shouldnt I ?
     
  17. Aug 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM
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    You need to take the pics on level pavement.
     
  18. Aug 26, 2009 at 5:43 PM
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    ok ill take some better ones on pavement with my real camera instead of this shitty camera phone
     
  19. Aug 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM
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    That's certain to be half wrong. :cool:
     
  20. Aug 26, 2009 at 6:59 PM
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    ok heres what it looks like
    [​IMG]
     
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