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Alignment Specs Off

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by dysfunctnlretard, Sep 24, 2009.

  1. Sep 24, 2009 at 2:31 PM
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    dysfunctnlretard

    dysfunctnlretard [OP] Hi

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    Alright. So I got a lift and some tires about a month ago and I noticed that the tires were retarded and my camber was way positive. I ended up purchasing some Total Chaos UCAs and I just got them installed this morning at Outlaw Offroad. The shop put the arms on and adjusted the camber with a naked eye and upon finishing I could definitely notice the difference in the appearance of the suspensions geometry and angles. Then they sent me to Goodyear (I guess they do all their alignments for them) to get the alignment. I got my truck back and it drives good. I THINK it pulls right a tiny bit, but that may just be my anger from waiting 6 hours and receiving my truck back with these specs:
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    Camber .3 .7 (Before was .3 & .8)

    Caster 2.6 3.0 (Before was the same)

    Toe is good

    My question is....will these work or do I need it realigned? I know closest to 0 is best but what will these numbers entail?


    I hate the alignment shop so much and I dont even wanna deal with them so if it works I may keep it. If not, someones gonna lose their life. :rant::infantry:
     
  2. Sep 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Staff Member

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    You pay them to align it propperly, so have them re do it. 0* Camber ( both sides), 0* Toe, and bring that passenger side Caster inline with the driver side.
     
  3. Sep 24, 2009 at 2:35 PM
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    dysfunctnlretard

    dysfunctnlretard [OP] Hi

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    Yea I just called the guy. So freaking mad. I gotta drive all the way down there tomorrow, waste gas and time, and hope that they can actually do their job right this time.
     
  4. Sep 24, 2009 at 2:39 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Staff Member

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    Tell them:
    0* Toe
    0* Camber
    And 2.5* Caster. They can get it. Get the print out and post it up after ward.
     
  5. Sep 24, 2009 at 2:45 PM
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    nad

    nad mmmm tacos!

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    my truck pulls to the right most of the time too, due to the road being slanted down the the right, when the road is slanted down to the left it pulls left.

    I am in the same boat as you, hating the alignment shop, I just want it done right, I have a very slight vibe because the last alignment i had done had the camber way off, which apparently I dont need new ucas to fix
     
  6. Sep 24, 2009 at 4:32 PM
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    Padilla1880

    Padilla1880 "Let's Ride!"

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    Haha.....

    Just kidding! You can look here if you want. Used Mr. 2x2's specs.

    Edit
    Hopefully you wont get this and have to do this. But im glad i did that.
     
  7. Sep 25, 2009 at 10:40 AM
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    dysfunctnlretard [OP] Hi

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    Well for the record, choose your alignment shop carefully. These guys suck sooo much @$@". I don't even understand why Outlaw Offroad would contract the alignments out to them, that kinda disappoints me. In any case, they tried readjusting the caster and camber and the camber was .5 & .4 respectively but then the caSter came out to 3.6 & 2.6. He told me he did that to compensate for the slant in the road and that if I wanted a low camber that was the only thing he could do. So now I'm mad....

    Then i tell him that my tires are gonna wear retarded and my steering is gonna be off and he says no it'll be fine. I told him I want the camber lower an he said he can't go any lower but I said that I purchased $700 UCAs specifically for that purpose, for perfect alignment specs and tht it can be done. So I told him that he either matches the casters below 3 and gets the camber to 0, or else I'm going to another alignment shop to get it done right and they're refunding me the cost of alignment. I also threatened to tell the 4x4 shop of their impotence. So he took my keys and is working on it...:D. I love it when they give up and I win
     
  8. Sep 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM
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    Well hopefully they get it good this time around!
     
  9. Sep 25, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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    dysfunctnlretard [OP] Hi

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    Yea I hope they do too. This is getting quite irritating. I had to wait 6 hours yesterday for uca install and the shittiest alignment ever and I've been here 2.5 hours already so they better get it right. I can't decipher the picture too well, what happened? Wheels rubbed alot? So u had to trim a lot?
     
  10. Sep 25, 2009 at 10:56 AM
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    Does that 6 hour install include the alignment time? 6 hours is a lot to install some UCA's. I did mine myself and took me a little over 2 hours.

    Well in the pic i was rubbing pretty bad on my cab mounts, so i had them chopboxed. Now no more rub.
     
  11. Sep 25, 2009 at 10:56 AM
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    dysfunctnlretard [OP] Hi

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    They did it!

    0 Camber
    0 Toe
    2.8 Caster

    all sides match!

    I'm glad this ordeal is over.
     
  12. Sep 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM
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  13. Sep 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM
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    dysfunctnlretard [OP] Hi

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    Took 1.5 hrs to install UCAs. I had to wait an hour for the 4x4 shop to even start working on my ride. Alignment took The rest of the time with an hour wait to even start
     
  14. Sep 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM
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    chris4x4

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    Good to hear!
     
  15. Sep 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM
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    can you get this kind of alignment on a 3" lift without the ucas? i had mine done today and it reads as follows
    left front= 0.7* camber 1.5* caster .02*toe
    right front= 0.5* camber 1.4* caster 0 toe

    they also said "oh since you have a lift your adjuster bolts were frozen"- extra $46
    TOTAL $126.78!!!
     
  16. Sep 29, 2009 at 4:11 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Staff Member

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    Thats BS. Lift doesnt freeze adjuster cams. You will need after market UCA's to get your alignment in spec.
     
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