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All- pro standard leaf.. Add a leaf?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Heartland Hunter, Apr 4, 2022.

  1. Apr 4, 2022 at 8:35 AM
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    Heartland Hunter

    Heartland Hunter [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I have a 2001 double cab i have all pro standard leafs they have 8k miles and 8 months old.
    I recently got a camper shell and the truck is sagging with shell + 200lbs of gear.
    I know i should have went with expos.. but i didnt. What can i do? I love the all pros they flex well and have been doing well until I got the shell.
    Was thinking about a Hell wig helper or a add a leaf? I dont really want any additional lift. What are yall doing?
    Thanks
     
  2. Apr 4, 2022 at 1:07 PM
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    I’m a new member so….Not sure why someone hasn’t replied yet. I honestly believe if you install the extra leaf on your springs you’d be very satisfied. Thinking about it myself. Seen several on here & read many forums too. That should compensate for the added weight of a camper shell easily. Use a Reliable after market supplier. See there’s few cheaper ones out there… Jim
     
  4. Apr 4, 2022 at 1:23 PM
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    @TacoJim333 adding a extra leaf to the leaf pack or getting a spring helper deal?
     
  5. Apr 4, 2022 at 1:25 PM
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    eon_blue

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    Add a leaf should help. The Expos are just the standard pack with more leafs I believe. At any rate an AAL will help

    I'm not really familiar with spring helpers
     
  6. Apr 4, 2022 at 4:31 PM
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    alexh

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    I'm surprised its sagging this much. I have Allpro's, at least 10 years old with a 6' lear shell and when I sit on the tailgate it barely moves. Also, I have Bilsteins in front with the 2.5 lift setting. There is a slight rake with rear a bit higher so I'm thinking I'm still at about 3" of lift over stock. Perhaps they changed the design.

    If you would like me to measure let me know what reference. Maybe they changed the design, when I bought mine they did not have the Expo yet so perhaps they made the standard softer at that time.
     
  7. Apr 4, 2022 at 4:47 PM
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    King coilovers, Tundra brakes, All pro Expo springs, Timbrens, ARB bumper, All Pro Sliders and Rear bumper, Landcruiser wheels, sold my Flippac, regeared to 4.88’s, ARB front Locker
    Keep in mind this info is going back to 2007, but I have had regular All pro leaf springs, with a shell, without a shell, added a leaf, then timbrens, bought a Flippac shell, went to AP Expo springs with the timbrens, and recently replaced the old Expo Springs with new ones and put an AAL in and left the Timbrens. My experience with the early AP regulars springs was that they did great for wheeling and with light loads, but when we loaded up for a trip to Big Bend with a fully loaded camper and hitch mounted cargo carrier, they gave up. We ditched the cargo carrier for the trip and it was OK.
    The AAL and Timbrens were fine for a regular shell and gear, but the Flippac was too much which is why I went with the Expo springs. Those flattened out after 7 years so I got another set and put in an AAL.
    Besides the Flippac, I also have rear tire carrier and the Flippac stays partially loaded with battery/fridge and some tools.
     
  8. Apr 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM
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  9. Apr 6, 2022 at 11:29 AM
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    I have a sung top with dakar springs, I ended swapping 1 med length spring and 1 small length spring from a chevy 63" pack and also added the overload spring to it, now my springs don't frown, it doesn't sag when I load it up, also still has decent flex and 3" of lift.

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