All-Pro Standard or Expedition? 2nd gen.

Sorry I know this has been beat to death...

I'd like to know what's best for my set up.

I have a 2007 Access Cab, v6, Prerunner. I'll be doing desert trails going a decent speed ~30mph(I don't know I never look at the speedometer) or so and will hit smallish whoop and jumps. For my daily trips in the rear I'll have the spare wheel/tire, small/medium ice chest and maybe another 100lbs of equipment. When I go camping I'll have the bed fully loaded to the top of the bedsides, but wont be off roading with it till I drop most the stuff out. On other trips I may take a couple dirt bikes. Other times I may haul a jet ski or boat. I already have Bilstein 5100 extended length (B110) shocks in the rear.

I'm on the fence.
I feel like the All Pro Standard springs will be great for Daily Driving, access cab and off road with an emptyish bed, but when I haul stuff on the street I feel like it will sag like crazy and I'll wish I had the Expedition pack.

 

Im trying to determine the same thing. I have a leer cap and want a spring that will hold that and flex well over whoops.

 

Yeah not bashing on the guys at all pro, but I emailed them and they basically told me the same thing they have advertised on their site lol.

I'm assuming it would be a different ride with a Double Cab Short Bed than an Access Cab Standard Bed. Less weight towards the rear on my access cab, but I'm no expert. I also don't know if the Standard pack will be better over the whoops or if the Expedition pack will be better for hitting stuff at speed or if it will buck me! I won't really need it to flex for crawling I like to go fast .

 

If you got the air bumps in the rear and have fabricated quick release set up you could have the best of both worlds

 

Wait quick release for what?

 

For the air bumps to take them out while off roading

 

How much lift do you have in the front? When unloaded, the EX springs will sit at about 4", and even with your daily load you'll likely still sit high and ride a little firmer than the standard packs. However, to be able to haul more and tow, you'll need the EX springs. With the standard springs, you'll probably get 2-2.5" of lift with 200-lbs of gear, anything more than that, and Timbrens or air bags are a good idea.

 

sub'd. im about to need some new leafs, so im interested how this turns out!

 

I don't know how much lift I have in the front I never took measurements before and after.

My rear leafs are pretty shot. I bottomed out alot unloaded and got bucked. I threw a band-aid($70 AAL from eBay) in there and have some Wheeler's Super bumps right now too.

ANYWAYS Will the All Pro Standard leaf pack will have more load capacity than the stock leafs?

Also with the AAL from the center of my wheel hub to the top of the bedside is about 38" I don't know how much over stock inches that is, but I want to keep it around that maybe .5-1" lower. It's just about level.

 

No, our standard pack does not have added capacity over the stock leafs for the simple fact that to provide better flex, the large flat overload leaf is eliminated. We will need to know tire size to better estimate how much lift you're getting from the suspension alone, but typically AALs are 1.5-2".

 

I'm running 315/75/16s. Yea I believe the AAL was advertised as 2"

 

The EX springs may sit too high for you unless you have 400-lbs of constant weight in the bed (when compared to your lift with the AAL). But, as stated before, if you use our standard springs with your daily load of 150-200 lbs, your truck will likely have about 2-2.5" of rear lift. However, since you also want to haul dirtbikes and tow, you should add Timbrens as a "helper spring". With about a 200 lb/in spring rate, our standard 3" springs will handle some weight, but you'll damage them if they are overloaded and go into a negative arch. Dirt bikes and trailers with little tongue weight should be fine.

 

Ok yeah that's exactly what I was thinking! I was also thinking since it's an access cab it has less weight towards the rear than a DCSB. I never really load my bed up off roading or daily driving and I just haul stuff to my camp then dump everything before. I'll try to save up next time they go on sale or group buy or free shipping lol. Unless I find a used set.
This was me the last few weeks.