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Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by Gunshot-6A, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. Dec 29, 2020 at 2:25 PM
    levie125

    levie125 Well-Known Member

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    In short, yes. For $1k you are paying for this person’s mistake of holding onto this bike about 3 years past it’s prime. Do you think you could sell it for $1k next week if you don’t like it? If yes, then buy it and don’t look back.
     
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  2. Dec 29, 2020 at 2:30 PM
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    That RM Altitude is 4 years old and it was the last year before they completely overhauled the thing. So that 2016 bike is really a design from 7 years ago. The next iteration of the Altitude is a sweet bike with update geometry. A 2018 Altitude is still probably worth a good amount of it's original value at 2+ years old.

    Edit: To answer your question directly... My hot take is that we're in a bit of a lull in bike design right now. I think that many trail bikes from up to 4 years ago (depending on brand) are roughly the same as the models coming out right now. Yeti is a great example of this IMO.
     
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  3. Dec 29, 2020 at 2:38 PM
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    It's crap compared to what I have now, but it's not really for me it's for friends and GF.

    Hm, you make a good point. I feel $600 may make it worth it as I could sell for $800 if I don't like it.

    I didn't think about that, I guess my current bike, 2020 Firebird, was an iteration from 2019, luckily they kept the design for 2021 too.
     
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  4. Dec 29, 2020 at 2:43 PM
    SenatorBlutarsky

    SenatorBlutarsky Well-Known Member

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    My Rallon is also getting kinda old by modern bike standards (going on 3 years!), but it's still considered to be modern geo and I see no reason to look at new frames.
     
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  5. Dec 29, 2020 at 2:57 PM
    whitedlite

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    Can we update the geometry of a bike to “modern” without taking away from something?

    What I’m referring to is changing one thing for the better also could be looked at as taking away from elsewhere. With how well bikes are made today, aren’t most changes now just minuscule and only for the elites. Is a bike that’s just had Geo changes going to make me faster everywhere, or just somewhere and also slower elsewhere. :confused:
     
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  6. Dec 29, 2020 at 3:10 PM
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    Perfect starter bike for someone new to the sport.
    Even at 4 years old that's a pretty solid bike for $1000 (obviously if you can get it for less do it). New MSRP $3300
    Getting anything for $1000 brand new is going to be a complete pile.
     
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  7. Dec 29, 2020 at 3:25 PM
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    I suppose everything is a compromise in some way, but I think trail bikes went through a geometry revolution about five years ago that led to better descending ability without sacrificing much pedaling efficiency. There's still compromises to be made as you go from down-country bikes to full enduro, but all of them are using the same concepts that has made all trail bikes much faster at descending without sacrificing pedaling efficiency.

    Since that geometry revolution occurred, all the changes now are miniscule IMO. There's lots of marketing BS out there and component upgrades and the like, but I don't think anything has changed mountain biking like the geo updates and I don't think we're gonna see another change like that for a little bit...

    Also, dropper posts! Man was that a revelation for me.
     
  8. Dec 29, 2020 at 3:33 PM
    ginseng27

    ginseng27 who knows?

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    not enough.
    Hardly see theft of bike pads around UT. I have a full EVOC that I leave on my tailgate all the time during the summer. I lock my tailgate so that is another deterrence. There's nothing stopping somebody from cutting my stuff to get to it but...eh. Never seen it around here.


    He did it wrong. He shouldnt' have ever passed.
     
  9. Dec 29, 2020 at 4:26 PM
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    I see, thanks for the insight!
     
  10. Dec 29, 2020 at 4:40 PM
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    I left my tailgate pad on for 2 straight years from 2016 to 2018. Literally never took it off but to clean it. No issue.

    2nd gen so no tailgate lock. Half the time I just jad the bike holding it down, so id just leave it in the bed while I rode.
     
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  11. Dec 29, 2020 at 4:55 PM
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    Not telling till it gets here. :anonymous:
    I’m super excited for it!

    Hopefully never, though I think “drastic” changes really happen about every 5 years. I love that bikes are getting better so fast. My 5 yo Spartan can’t compare to the new Wreckoning. Not even close.
    I’m willing to pay the premium to ride these super-bikes. So, keep it coming!
     
  12. Dec 29, 2020 at 5:36 PM
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    ISU800m What? I didn't have any corn!

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    There’s something about ripping an older bike though. No forgiveness just pure feeling.
    My dad had a 90s specialized ground control that he used to ride and I was lucky enough to take the reins for a few rides. For something older than me, it was light, snappy, and damn fun to ride.
     
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  13. Dec 29, 2020 at 6:02 PM
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    This is exactly me.

    I sold a 2018 Rocky Mountain Altitude for $3k back in the spring to buy the new Transition Scout. Definitely a better climber but nothing drastic from that time period to 2020.
     
  14. Dec 30, 2020 at 3:48 AM
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    ThaiChillyTaco David aka Chilly aka Booty Freak

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    Fox’s 2.5’s extended SCS Gun Metal SR8’s Falken Wildpeaks
    The Schwinn Homegrown hard tails from the mid 90's were a cross country bike that
    surprised the mountain bike community. BMX type geometry with bad ass bass boat
    paint schemes. A lot of my dual slalom friends would buy the small frames to set up as
    their dual slalom racers.

    Schwinn Homegrown.jpg
     
  15. Dec 30, 2020 at 5:52 AM
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    Brake bleed kit recommendations? I have sram guide Rs. Went and got pads at the bike shop yesterday, and talked to the guy. He said he wouldn’t spend the 70-80$ on the actual sram kit since I’d only be doing it once a year or so.
     
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  16. Dec 30, 2020 at 6:10 AM
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    I got the sram kit on a sale, but this is good. Shipping hurts though, as long as it’s compatible with SRAM brakes just get cheapest one.

    https://www.chainreactioncycles.com...leed-kit-set/rp-prod169702?gs=1&sku=sku638822

    Edit, cheap and works.
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/858303...eding-edge?gpla=1&gao=1&variation0=1550614925
     
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  17. Dec 30, 2020 at 6:58 AM
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    Im on the fence about buying the sram kit as well. I probably will though because I only do it once in a while, but doing it at my convebiebce is nice. Plus if a buddy needs a bleed, they can come over and we can knock one out pretty easy. I tend to be pretty communal with my friends when it comes to tools.
     
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  18. Dec 30, 2020 at 7:32 AM
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    Anyone have front and rear tire combo recommendations? I was looking at Maxxis Aggressor rear and possibly a Minion front
     
  19. Dec 30, 2020 at 7:43 AM
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    I got this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SFSF5EK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_2-j7Fb2GTWCP7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
    The syringes are a little more robust and easier to push/pull with one hand. The hoses screw in and make the connections a bit easier too. Works for my codes and guides. I think I did need to order one of the bleeding edge adapters though
     
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  20. Dec 30, 2020 at 7:54 AM
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    I don’t think that Etsy one comes with the bleeding edge adapter.

    Yeah I’m the same way, just nobody close to me right now with the bleed kit for mine.

    Yeah that’s what I’m noticing about the cheaper kits is they don’t have that adapter. The guy at the bike shop said that was pretty crucial for the guides.

    Vittoria mazza front, Martello rear.
     

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