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  1. May 11, 2021 at 7:30 AM
    Dr. Doom Says

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    For me it was just dialling back the effort. I didnt have to be pushing as hard up climbs.
     
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  2. May 11, 2021 at 7:37 AM
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    Was feeling it this day:
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  3. May 11, 2021 at 7:50 AM
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    I just have a grom for a bike but i go off road with it quite often. And I am in the middle of 2jz swapping my taco.
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  4. May 11, 2021 at 7:54 AM
    Gunshot-6A

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    Oh that is a sweet combo.

    I spotted your truck once while I was stopped at Beaver Taco and it looks so good!
     
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  5. May 11, 2021 at 7:57 AM
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    Pacing is a difficult thing. If I go super hard at the beginning and over the limit, I'm usually slower than if I did a hard sustained effort the whole time. The trick is knowing where that limit is and staying just below it. I've been training and riding with power meters now for about 5 years (not on the MTB) so I have a pretty good idea of sustainable effort vs blown up. That being said, I did blow up on a 30 min climb the other day haha.
     
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  6. May 11, 2021 at 8:04 AM
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    Yeah I live in Beaver. Thanks
     
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  7. May 11, 2021 at 8:12 AM
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    I'm 54 and have very similar zones with a max around 183 and a RHR of 45. I raced for years and have been tested for VO2, LTR, etc....

    Your ride data looks good here, and what a good ride would look like IMO.

    No offense to @Dr. Doom Says , but I'm not sure its possible to spend an hour in zone 5. I'm not saying you didn't crank out that ride... but your zones look off to me.
     
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  8. May 11, 2021 at 8:17 AM
    mrtonyd

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    i use a wahoo tickr for road rides and trainer rides, since thats where im focusing more on fitness than fun. went with the wahoo because it works with bluetooth and ant+.

    i also wear my garmin watch pretty much 24/7, but its not as accurate as a chest strap. im just into data logging and like to go back and look at things. kinda sucked into the garmin ecosystem with my watch and smart scale. real nice having all that information in one place and can see trends over time.
     
  9. May 11, 2021 at 8:33 AM
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    I alos use the Garmin HR monitor...and really like it.

    your zones pretty much look like mine do as well. Post heart attack, i am not supposed to be in the red for more than 10 minutes at a time, if at all. Not too hard to do because I don't ride to race...I push my self, but since I am making no money on the activity, it is not worth dying for. i ride mostly to be out in the woods, and for the personal technical challenges along the routes...

    I have never used Strava, nor will I ever b/c I don't care about how I compare to other people. My judgement of a good ride is how much I ache when I get back to the truck...i want a moderate amount of that "good" muscle ache at the end
     
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  10. May 11, 2021 at 9:33 AM
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    We all have, at some point.





    .... I'll see myself out.
     
  11. May 11, 2021 at 9:34 AM
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    Oh dude! Not good. Either your zones are all off, are you are going to hurt yourself. You don't drive your truck bouncing off the red-line. Same goes for your heart. Once you damage your heart, it doesn't heal.
     
  12. May 11, 2021 at 9:38 AM
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    I keep a close eye on my watch and diligently stay out of the red. This mostly involves slowing down, but sometimes I may take a quick break to recover for a minute.

    It's amazing, if I spend too much time in the red, I won't recover and as soon I start pedaling again, even at a sedate pace, I'll go right back into the red.

    It's so easy on a MTB to over-exert and you don't always feel it by I think everyone should be riding with a HR monitor.
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  13. May 11, 2021 at 10:01 AM
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    So I was going to find a few articles and blow this off and explain how all these are inaccurate anyway. BUT.

    https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a29801627/how-accurate-is-your-wrist-heart-rate-monitor/

    So, they are inaccurate. But in the neighborhood of 3-5 BPM, not the 20BPM I was expecting. They are not scientific, but give a good neighborhood number where you are likely near within reason. If it told you 125 BPM and you're sitting at your desk eating lunch, either you got problems or the watch does. If it tells you 125BPM and you're actually at 127, eh, for a quick reference tool, that's good enough in my mind - you're at 160 but it shows 163, it's not like you're at 100 and it shows 163, for example.
     
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  14. May 11, 2021 at 10:08 AM
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    Thanks for the input guys. I ordered a garmin and am gonna try it out.
    I guess I just am really looking to get better at pacing myself. It's super hilly around where I ride and I often find myself pushing myself through the whole climb only to be completely whooped when it comes time to go down. I think getting a better insight into HR would help better gauge that.

    Even though I'm only 25, it couldn't hurt to keep an eye on those kinds of things
     
  15. May 11, 2021 at 10:12 AM
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    I shoot to stay right in the middle of aerobic as much as I can. Climbs are what gets me - and I suck at climbing anyways - so I always tell friends to go on ahead and I will catch up...but yeah, without knowing it, you can quickly be above red for a while and not feel it till later
     
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  16. May 11, 2021 at 10:14 AM
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    This exactly. I don't use it to train within zones, only as an upper and lower limiter. My general range is 130 - 175 BPM, meaning anything below 130 I generally view as a recovery effort. Anything above 175 isn't sustainable on the long term. I have both a watch with onboard HR and a separate Garmin HR Strap. The Garmin HR strap is more responsive. Over a longer period of time, they are generally pretty close.

    There are other factors (besides the accuracy of the HR monitor) that can impact HR (temp, fatigue, hydration, etc.) so I think the consensus is to use them as everyone here has mentioned.

    I will say one interesting thing is that, my average RHR is usually in the mid 40's but 2 years ago I got an infection. Right before I started to really feel sick my RHR jumped up to 75. It basically stayed there until my antibiotics took hold, then it went back down. I know there have been some studies but nothing definitive yet. Just something to note that if you wear a wrist HR and see a big spike in RHR, you may be getting sick.
     
  17. May 11, 2021 at 10:14 AM
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    I use 'dis one @betterbuckleup

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0779SKCXW/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_G8VG9PGN7NE9DAAN9Y94?_encoding=UTF8

    It does the trick, but I'm not actively monitoring or a high risk, I use it for telling the time mostly. Heart rate, sleep, etc is nice but :notsure:

    I DO like that it does a sedentary timer, you can set it - every 15, 30, etc minutes at work is nice. If I'm sitting on my ass too long. And it does an alarm clock feature that doesn't wake the wife, that's nice. And does call alerts, that's cool. Ties into apple health app but otherwise it's kinda janky, but as said, for me, it does the tricks I need. For me, for 25 bucks, no brainer.

    OH and charging - super easy. Pull the strap and plug it in, no proprietary cable BS to deal with.

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  18. May 11, 2021 at 10:16 AM
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    IDK im like 10-20 years younger than you guys. Resting HR is in the 50's. This was a pretty high effort ride, id say the normal ride about 10bpm lower on max and avg.

    Unless my Wahoo is off which is possible; my whoop strap reflects the effort as well from the same event.

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  19. May 11, 2021 at 10:17 AM
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    But yeah maybe I should dial it back. :p
     
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  20. May 11, 2021 at 10:17 AM
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    I'm 28 and don't track my HR during riding, I just ride.

    BUT my watch thingy tells me my RHR is between 62-65 most days that it's got in the bank. Granted....I am about 40 lbs overweight and out of shape, THAT doesn't help I'm sure.
     

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