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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by ccallen, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. Jun 15, 2019 at 7:54 PM
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    The DT's that came on my Yeti are super quiet. After riding quiet hubs, I'll never go back to noise makers. I'd rather hear my tires on the trail.
     
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  2. Jun 15, 2019 at 11:34 PM
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    Thanks for that. As far as reversing polarity, I believe the magnet would need a force greater than its own in order to reverse polarity. I’m just tying to understand when such a strong magnetic force would be applied to a hub.

    I’ve never used ceramic bearings. But solid steel bearings with good seals are great. The p321 hubs use Japanese ezo bearings, and those seem to have really good reviews. No issues with them yet.

    I do remember that their partnership with i9 is how they got started. Super cool you were around for that. I bought into the magnetic pawls idea due to ease of maintenance. When I had to service them it was super easy to pop them out, clean, re-lube, put them back.
     
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  3. Jun 16, 2019 at 7:15 AM
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    This reminded me of the bottom bracket I switched to late last year. I didn’t go full ceramic for the very reasons you state (and of course the exorbitant cost), but did decide to test durability of the IRD scramjet BB. They use a single ceramic ball with the remainder in the bearings being steel on steel races. Their claim being that the single ceramic ball isn’t enough to prematurely wear the races but serves to clean any collected debris by crushing due to the hardness over the other steel bearings.

    It seemed logical and the price point wasn’t so painful that it was worth a long term test for me. I put them on two of my hardest working bikes and they seem to be holding up really well to the hours of use.

    The other thing you should keep in mind about magnets is their susceptibility to losing magnetism from hard impacts. Whack a magnet with a hammer and it will lose its magnetism.

    Not that you’re going to hit those pawls with a hammer when servicing but if one drops from the bench or your hub takes a hard enough hit; they’d be worth inspecting.
     
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  4. Jun 16, 2019 at 1:07 PM
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    So, I may be wrong, and please someone correct me if I am, but the only ways in which a magnet such as those in P321 hubs loses its strength are: heat above 176* (for neodymium), hard oblique impacts (such as repeated hammer strikes, not just dropping), and exposure to magnetic fields (of opposite polarity) stronger than the existing strength of the magnet itself.
    Don’t see how any of those things can happen to a hub under normal operating conditions.

    *This is just from spending a bit of time researching. I’m by NO MEANS qualified beyond that to speak to the mechanics and physics of magnetism beyond what I have read.
     
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  5. Jun 16, 2019 at 1:45 PM
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    Yeah, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that if one takes a hit bad enough to effect the magnets in the hub, or enough heat to do the same...... Well they probably have bigger problems and aren’t gonna care about the hub or what’s inside.
     
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    Happy sunday bois!

     
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    4BE07651-63E6-4EAC-BAB3-FC335F79B59F.jpg Just got a Yakima Hangover. Seems sturdy as heck. Will update after a few uses. I will still be using the tailgate pad for most local stuff. This will be for longer rides overnight. That way we can use the bed for secure storage with the hard tonneau cover.
     
  8. Jun 16, 2019 at 2:44 PM
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    That red bike on the right, not the YT... I like that red. What frame is that?
     
  9. Jun 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM
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  10. Jun 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM
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    It’s a 2018 Specialized Status. It’s my 12 YOs DH bike.
     
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  11. Jun 16, 2019 at 4:47 PM
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    Correct... just putting out there to keep in the back of your mind. IDK about you but I have gone full yard sale while riding the rocky trails in PA and watched my bike ping and bounce off those rocks a few times.
     
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    45043841-2FE9-48BB-BC37-30C800A20CCD.jpg Yesterday up in Hayward, WI I raced a 30 mile mtb race on the great CAMBA single track. The Yeti SB100 handles the Rocks, Boulders and Roots perfectly especially on downhills.
     
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  14. Jun 16, 2019 at 7:16 PM
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    Finally got the semi-fat back to a rideable state. Had to swap out the fork for one with a taller steerer tube to prevent some numbness and arm fatigue. Really happy to finally ride it again and start prepping for some long distance trips.

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    Here’s a screenshot right from Yeti’s website store.

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  16. Jun 16, 2019 at 7:49 PM
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    Ahh, same ergon grips I have but mine are black. I recently switched to an ODI and I'm not really a fan...
     
  17. Jun 16, 2019 at 8:07 PM
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    I have used various types of Ergon grips for over 10 years now and really like their products :thumbsup:
     
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    My two trusty steeds

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    Same here. ESI are awesome too, but just don’t last worth shit for me.
     
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    Nice helmet/bike matchup. I’m on a 6D as well. Unbeatable protection, but it’s freakin big. I took a bit of a spill couple days ago, nice to know my noggin is well protected. I’ve had a few concussions in my life, and I’d just shrug it off and keep going. Protecting my brain is important as hell now. So glad we are starting to pay more attention to that nowadays.
     
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