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AlphaRex Headlight.

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by Xx Ares xX, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. Sep 20, 2020 at 8:00 PM
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    Not sure I can wait that long...hmm

     
  2. Sep 20, 2020 at 11:30 PM
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    One brand is selling a legitimate compliant product (the one to wait for) the other is just reselling cheap Alibaba poor quality Chinese products that have clearly never been compliance tested at a massive markup to uninformed US customers.
     
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  3. Sep 21, 2020 at 9:22 AM
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    Morimoto lights aren’t poor quality lights
     
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  4. Sep 21, 2020 at 9:47 AM
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    I emailed alpha rex a couple days ago and asked about an ETA for 12-15 Tacoma's. They said they don't have a set ETA but are trying to get them out before the end of the year.
     
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  5. Sep 21, 2020 at 2:16 PM
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    That would be nice. If it is 10 months i'd probably end up buying the morimotos over them.
     
  6. Sep 21, 2020 at 11:36 PM
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    Unsure if trying to be funny. I wasn't saying Morimoto are poor quality lights, they actually look like they are compliant unlike the poor quality alternative.
     
  7. Sep 22, 2020 at 2:21 PM
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    Are you saying the alpharex are junk? From what I've seen they're way better than all the ebay lights out there.
     
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  8. Sep 22, 2020 at 3:24 PM
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    The lights origin is china, my guess is an American front with China lights.
     
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  9. Sep 22, 2020 at 3:41 PM
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  10. Sep 22, 2020 at 3:43 PM
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    Who makes Morimotos?
     
  11. Sep 22, 2020 at 3:48 PM
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    These lights look and perform so much better than anything out there in my opinion. Since my OEM lights were broke down I upgraded to these.
     
  12. Sep 22, 2020 at 4:08 PM
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    They are also made in China, and the reliability of their products is sub par.
     
  13. Sep 22, 2020 at 6:12 PM
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    Morimotos at least carry somewhat of a warranty with 5 years. AlphaRex is only 2 years.
     
  14. Sep 22, 2020 at 10:42 PM
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    LOL! I've reviewed more lighting products than anyone on the forum by orders of magnitude and had those reviews referenced in interviews by the worlds top automotive lighting experts. Claiming I am some Morimoto fanboy is a complete joke, as I have never given their products a positive review. All my reviews are based on actual measured results. Here I point out Morimoto's inability to accurately test their own products. Here I point out Morimoto fogs are among the worst performing in the industry. Here I point out their replacement LED design is awful, among the worst of those I've tested. Here I point out that for $18 you can have similar low beam performance to the $1200 LED Morimoto headlights, while having drastically superior high beam performance to the LEDs. Here and here I point out that OEM LED headlights are higher performing than Morimotos, directly countering Morimotos claim, but back to that first point Morimoto is not testing accurately. And here I highlight the superior high beam performance of the OEM LEDs vs Morimoto. I very much think Morimoto wishes I would never test any of their products. Not sure on your definition of fanboy but constantly pointing out their products are sub-par and better alternatives exist and they lack the skillset to appropriately test their own products doesn't seem to fall in line with my definition of fanboy. The fact that I would promote a Morimoto product over the alternative should draw serious questions on the alternative product.

    If you need additional data points, after giving critical feedback to Diode Dynamics on their replacement LEDs in my review and their SS3s, they had this to say on my lighting knowledge. I'm also responsible for pointing out Bajas false claims of being SAE compliant and directly causing them to issue a recall fix for their lights. I've also been published in a lighting article for a magazine to inform people on proper beam patterns. Claims by highly regarded LED manufactures that Crash has more skill than the people designing these LED products paired with worlds top automotive lighting expert referencing my post in an interview explaining proper LED headlight performance, and challenging a top light manufacture on their products failed compliance performance and having them issue a recall, and being in a published article on SAE beam patterns, I think it is safe to say I might know a thing or two on the lighting subject. It is also worth noting that professional headlight experts have all but condemned the AlphaRex lights as cheap Chinese trinkets and that the brand is not a legitimate operation.

    I completely understand if you view me as a troll in the thread. I don't see it that way. Far too often misinformation is rampantly spread by those that lack the engineering knowledge to evaluate a lighting product. That honestly isn't a swipe to fault those that try, but unfortunately all the red flags that indicate poor headlight performance with excessive foreground light are what humans favor and rate higher in perceived performance, which isn't what you want in a headlight.

    I know I come across as brash, but I have spent many, many thousands of my own dollars in evaluating lighting products solely to help others make better lighting choices and ask nothing in return. I know that is absurd. I don't get paid for this. I'm an extreme lighting enthusiast with a goal of promoting quality lighting products and stamping out misinformation and misleading information, because I am tired of seeing people being mislead.

    While you might not like it, I am here to support the TacomaWorld community. Unfortunately AlphaRex isn't a legitimate product, and that information should not be suppressed to support a glowing review thread.
     
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  15. Sep 23, 2020 at 5:05 AM
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    To use your phrase, "a lot to unpack here." Let me unpack the worst stuff first if I may.

    "I personally set the bar of what is good and bad, by comparing the AlphaRex headlights to others that are currently on the market." What qualifications do you have to allow you to personally set the bar? To me (an Engineer), it sounds more like you have a degree in Marketing, not Engineering. Do you have any cold, hard, unbiased test data? Apparently not. Marketing claims are far easier to blast out because they require little or no proof and have no national standards to test against.

    "Oh, and they are just opinions and speculation." If there's one thing that @crashnburn80 does here (and other places) on a regular basis, it's provide solid, unbiased, factual scientific data using industry standard test procedures and state of the art equipment. And he carefully explains all of his testing methods in a manner that almost anybody can understand. The only time he offers opinions is where science doesn't lead to a clear answer. (Such as when somebody asks him what the "best looking" headlight is.)

    " ...people are still going to buy them because they look cool and are more than bright enough." I'll give you credit on the first part because people will buy them because they look cool. There are many, many uniformed consumers out there and they make some pretty poor choices because they confuse a safety item (headlights) with bling. Surely you have somebody near you with drop in LED headlight bulbs that are so purple in color that the driver can't see anything?

    As for "more than bright enough," could you please define that in scientific terms? @crashnburn80 has repeatedly shown - and proved - that many claims by aftermarket lighting manufacturers are false - or true, but used in the wrong context. One of the biggest old wives tales he has repeatedly and eloquently blown up about lighting is that more foreground light is a good thing. Unfortunately, many uninformed consumers confuse more foreground light with superior lighting - or in your case, "more than bright enough." The scientifically proven truth is pretty much the exact opposite unless you're rock crawling.

    Finally, "more than bright enough," is the poorest scientific explanation of how well a product performs that I've ever seen. In fact it's also a terrible Marketing reason. One of my favorite quotes says that "In God we trust. All others bring data." Got data? Didn't think so.

    "Will the build quality hold out? Who knows?" Words completely fail me on that statement. Is that what your packaging says under the Warranty section? Any reputable manufacturer would have accelerated testing data to quantify how long their product should last under a variety of conditions.

    I could go on and on, but being an Engineer with 36 years of manufacturing experience and a life long lighting enthusiast, I know when to stop. Mike drop.
     
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    I love this. Thanks for the entertainment when drinking my morning coffee.
    @crashnburn80 does review lots of stuff. I read it. But I also have LED bulbs in my OEM headlights :rofl:


    :crapstorm:
     
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    I hope to be behind crashnburn80 someday with my superior quad projectors so he can tell me all about my Apex mind control lights
    :poking: lolz jajajajajaja
     
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