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Amateur (Ham) Radio BS and Callsign Thread!

Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by The Traveler, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. Oct 29, 2013 at 11:33 AM
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    You can't have a duel band antenna with a 1/4 wave on either band.
     
  2. Oct 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM
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    I know projects can be fun and I don't want to dampen your exuberance, but I fail to see the point of using such a short mast on a mobile install. It's one thing if the mast extends your range by say 20-30 miles, but I would wager that it will probably do almost nothing for you and maybe even make things worse. If it were me I'd just mount that Larsen on the roof and call it good! All mobile installs are a series of compromises and you just have to make the best choices you can given the circumstances.

    Now, where masts make a lot of sense is in portable installs. Such as this one:

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    Portable 2M mast to extend range.[/QUOTE]

    Yes. And please note the radials.
     
  3. Oct 29, 2013 at 3:17 PM
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    So, basically the idea of the mast I have in my mind.. would be not to raise the antenna to an advantage elevation, but just to get it above the metal shield of the cab, to that of a roof-mount antenna. The reasoning behind the retractable design... is that I work in a building where I drive under a 7ft ceiling of a parking garage daily. These limitations sparked my mind to build a (cab controllable) retraction-mast design that I have never seen ever.

    It's hard to explain now without uploading drawings, but those might (who knows) be proprietary one day. I know this can work, I just need to select the right antenna that can ride..and still perform on this aluminum member I call a mast.

    So other than the parking garage, I do like the look of my truck without a permanent antenna. This design will be tactically hidden 2 inches below the bed wall. And this is just another excuse to use a pneumatic system to make something I love even more awesome. Basically. :D
     
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  5. Oct 30, 2013 at 4:52 AM
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    i'm out in Indio on top of Chuckwalla mountain- I wanna test out my new ham radio
    can someone jump on
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    157.545 and say hello? I wanna see the range of my setup
     
  7. Oct 31, 2013 at 5:02 AM
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    Like to listen to pagers do ya?
     
  8. Oct 31, 2013 at 7:22 AM
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    Scored a Larsen 2/70C w/ NMO kit for $15 in Bozeman! She basically said, "Well, I don't know what this is, how about $15?"

    Werd!

    Going to be out in Yellowstone, there should be an IRLP node nearby..
     
  9. Oct 31, 2013 at 7:35 AM
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    oh nice, someone is going to have fun this weekend.
     
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    ?? Dunno what ya mean
    New to this whole thing just installed a rugged race radio on mine and two other friends trucks. So far I've gotten clear calls over 20 miles but wanted to see how it'd work while I was on top of a mountain where someone brighter than myself had installed cell towers. Can't wait to get my cert
     
  12. Oct 31, 2013 at 8:01 AM
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    Rugged radios offers some pretty nice products, especially their 110w radios. Just to bad that the race radios are not FCC type accepted to be on amateur radio bands just to let you know. You'll no what I mean once you start studying for your exam.
     
  13. Oct 31, 2013 at 10:13 AM
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    Christmas in October! :kona: Let us know when you get it connected up. I'll look for you on aprs.fi. :)

    Do yourself a favor and call Rugged 888-541-7223. Ask them a simple question. Is is legal to operate (transmit) with your VHF radio without an FCC license? I just did that and I was either lied to (most likely) or the customer service rep was grossly misinformed. He was friendly and polite though. :thumbsup:

    If you dig a little deeper and obtain Rugged Radios frequency list that they program into their radios, at the top of this list is this little warning:
    Content provided is included for the sole purpose of providing educational information on a passive basis. Frequencies shown have been compiled from various sources. It is the end user’s responsibility to observe FCC regulations for proper use and programming of any radio frequency
    Please note the passive basis. What does this mean? It means for listening only. They know the limits of the law and when you key up one of your race radios without operating under an itinerant FCC license, it's illegal.

    Now I'm going to prove it to you. I give you two exhibits for your examination.

    The first is a partial screen capture of Rugged Radios frequency list they program into their radios for sale. Notice the highlighted frequency of 151.925. Exhibit two is an FCC License frequency search by geographic location [CALIFORNIA], and I searched for active licenses. You'll note that there are 44 business that are licensed for that frequency with 1-10 shown.

    Exhibit 1 a
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    Exhibit 2

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    Take a look a that list. If you used that frequency for example, you could interfere with Hospital operations, or the State of California... Both of which probably has deeper pockets than you and they could file complaints to the FCC which may come after you...The bottom line is that by transmitting with your race radio, your committing an illegal act and you subject yourself to potential financial and legal troubles. Do I write this to make you feel bad about your radio? No. It's to educate you and help protect you from the ignorance and misunderstanding of others.

    If it were me, I'd return the race radio and buy a dedicated ham rig and get my amateur license. One of the biggest drawbacks of the Vertex gear is you can't program it yourself. The ham gear is all programmable by the operator.

    Nothing wrong with using vertex gear on the amateur bands. Hell, you can use anything or build anything as long as your gear does not QRM anybody and you adhere to power restrictions, etc. As a side note, I want to hear more about Tim's old converted land mobile equipment. How heavy was that Micor? :D
     
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    Had no idea about vertex operating on amature bands ..to bad can't program repeater sets into the race radios offered by rugged radio
     
  15. Nov 1, 2013 at 5:29 AM
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    Ok here is the deal the land/mobile radios are type accepted radios they have very tight freq. tolerance many of those radios will work in the amateur bands more often than not they require propriety software to program them (dealers). Some require a complete re-tune because they are numb as a hake out of band (very poor receive). It is legal to modify them to operate on the amateur bands but it is not legal to modify a ham radio for the land/mobile service. Over the years we have used old land/mobile gear for repeater service because they are very rugged and have a much greater duty cycle that the ham gear. There are also a large number of them in service as ham mobile radios most often the more modern ones because they are synthesized and smaller. The old stuff had crystal controlled frequencies and you had to have crystals cut to the freq. expensive and a pain in the back side. This is OK for a repeater because you are only dealing with two frequencies. I still have a Micor operating on a site in Conway NH that I re- built in 96 all 25# of it, it was an old state police mobile unit There is another Motorola base in my shop that is far more modern it is a complete unit with a power supply it tips the scales at close to 200# it will replace the Micor. For you guys transmitting on a licensed band (land/mobile) for fun you are playing with fire if you interfere with the service they were intended for trust me they can find you.
     
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    :eek: 200 lbs! :D Totally awesome. :)
     
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    Check this out... postd on ARRL's site

     
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    Yep and CB is generally used on AM. What happens the operators all ways think more is better so they add a power mike full gain and a 1.5 KW amp over modulate the AM and cover well over 20 KC's in either direction blissfully thinking that sounds good on the other side but having no concern that they are transmitting all over the place. Big brother is listening and for good reason.
     
  19. Nov 3, 2013 at 1:26 PM
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    could you elaborate how they can find you? Please. I am getting ready to start studying for the tech test...I am all about being legal.

    Thanks.
     
  20. Nov 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM
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    In the old days we'd use directional yagi or loop antennas. We'd go on 'foxhunts' as a hobby.
    Now days they have sophisticated dopplescant systems, like on the top of police cars with the four or five short vertical antennas, like the Lojack systems.
     
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