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Anti Seize !!

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Yota_Fox, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Nov 27, 2012 at 10:01 PM
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    Yota_Fox

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    Ok so I'm 3/4s the way through my tear down and last night I busted more knuckles and cursed to get the damn front leaf bushing bolts out !!! My question is can or why couldn't I put some anti seize on the new bolt shanks to possibly avoid this in the future !?!? Or is this one of those things that the bolts are supposed to lock themselves in solid and not move ??
     
  2. Nov 28, 2012 at 9:37 AM
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    I don't think there are any bolts that you can't put anti-seize on!(watch someone prove me wrong..)
     
  3. Nov 28, 2012 at 9:42 AM
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    One thing to take into account with anti-seize is that it affects your torque wrench readings when tightening, due to the lesser amount of friction the nut is encountering. So sometimes using antiseize can lead to over-torquing if you are not careful.
     
  4. Nov 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM
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    That is something i never thought about...TIP OF THE DAY!
     
  5. Nov 28, 2012 at 9:53 AM
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    In all honesty, not true. No torque spec (at least in vehicles that I've worked on) is specified for being lubed or not lubed
     
  7. Nov 28, 2012 at 10:03 AM
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    Just because it doesn't say where you looked - Doesn't make it not true. There certainly are different torque specs for lubed versus un-lubed threads.

    I would venture a guess that most torque settings assume unlubed, but I'd have to pull out the books to confirm.
     
  8. Nov 28, 2012 at 10:29 AM
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    Update your knowledge: http://www.imperialsupplies.com/pdf/A_FastenerTorqueCharts.pdf

    Per the chart, reduce your lubed torque by 20% for use of anti-seize, and always lubricate and use lubed torque values.
     
  9. Nov 28, 2012 at 10:33 AM
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    If we all go back and carefully read what the OP asked and focus on answering his question, he specifically mentioned shanks, not threads.

    Shanks, yes. Or grease them. I put anitseize on mine.

    Threads, no.
     
  10. Nov 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM
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    What about anti-sieze on the bushings?
     
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    The rubber or uretahne bushings in the leaf eyes? Use a light coating of grease for install. The corrosion causing seizure really only happens between the bolt shank and the metal sleeve in the bushing it goes through. Moly grease is fine.

    You can get greaseable bushings if you want (mentions moly or teflon grease)
    http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/gstacoma.htm
     
  12. Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM
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    Lots of info and yes I mean shanks the threads where fine just the shanks rusted solid to the middle of the sleeves on the bushing I've had the same problem on my 89 years ago and thought I'd find out if it was possible thanks alot guys
     
  13. Nov 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM
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    Those wheeler greasable ones you are talking about are for 99 to 04 I've got an 08 ?
     
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    Bushing Set for CS047 Spring Set:15.69/set [​IMG]
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