1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Any Evans Creek beta?

Discussion in 'North West' started by BenWA, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. Jul 13, 2010 at 9:06 PM
    #1
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    Anybody here ever hit up Evans Creek in the NW corner of Rainier NP? I found a trail map on their website but I'm wondering if anyone here knows the trails pretty well, and know what could be done in a stock second gen double cab. Most of the videos I have seen on youtube of Evans have been of gnar, gnar, and more gnar -- mostly wheeled by highly modified rigs with solid front axles and huge amounts of lift.

    Trails 520 and 519 seem like they might be doable in a stock Tacoma (they are designated as "more difficult"), but there are vids on youtube of a couple of the sections of 519 that look gnarrrrrly.

    Anyone been there?

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Jul 14, 2010 at 12:01 PM
    #2
    ForeRunner

    ForeRunner BBC. Bring Back Clarkson Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Member:
    #7
    Messages:
    6,930
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Drunken Sailor
    Paroled from CA!
    Vehicle:
    4Runner Trail Edition
    I won't take my truck there... yet. If you go in a stock rig expect damage. Been a few times riding shotgun and there are some tree's with a little extra paint on 'em, rocker panel mangling roots and stumps.
     
  3. Jul 14, 2010 at 2:30 PM
    #3
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    Good insight.....thanks!
     
  4. Jul 14, 2010 at 10:30 PM
    #4
    Digiratus

    Digiratus Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34006
    Messages:
    10,820
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    the Pacific Northwest, Exploring
    Vehicle:
    The RedHead
    King ET Coilovers Camburg Uniball UCAs Alcan 8-Leaf Rear Spring Packs Fox 2.0 Resi Rear Shocks FrankenFab Rear Shock Relocate Trail Gear U-bolt Flip Toytec 1" Extended Shackle 4.88 Nitro Gears ARB Front Locker OBA ARB Twin Comp 15x8 D Window Steelies 33" BFG KM2s Limited Edition Elite Front Bumper Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch PIAA 510 SMR Fog Lights Lightforce 170s Badland Sliders FrankenFab Tire Carrier Swingout bumper w/kitchen BudBuilt Front & Bellypan Skids BAMF Rear Diff Skid Whynter 65 qt. Fridge/Freezer CVT Mt Bachelor RTT Badland Custom Bed Rack GM 140 amp alternator Optima Yellow Top battery Magnaflow 18" Muffler Braided Steel Brake Lines AFE Pro Dry S air filter ScanGauge II OBDII Scanner Uniden 520xl CB radio 3' Firestik Adjustable tip antenna Pioneer DEH-P9400BH HU Alpine Amps & Type R components (F) and coaxials (R) Wet Okole Seat Covers Weathertech Digital Liners Deck Plate Mod 1" Diff Drop Carrier Bearing Drop
    There's a lot of very cool trails at Evans Creek. On a clear day the views of Rainier are spectacular.

    However, there isn't much there for a stock 2nd gen besides the main access "road" that runs through the middle of it. 519 and 520 can be very challenging even for built 1st gens because those trails are very tight and twisty.

    If you are looking for something interesting, do a google search for the Naches trail. There are some sections of that trail that are doable for an unlifted Tacoma, specially if you have the elocker and aggressive tires.

    The Naches trail is accessed off of Hwy 410 from FS70 which is just a few miles past Greenwater.
     
  5. Jul 14, 2010 at 10:44 PM
    #5
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    Cool, thanks for the info. I have heard of Naches and have been meaning to check it out. Good to know that there are parts that might be doable for a stock.
     
  6. Jul 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM
    #6
    ForeRunner

    ForeRunner BBC. Bring Back Clarkson Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Member:
    #7
    Messages:
    6,930
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Drunken Sailor
    Paroled from CA!
    Vehicle:
    4Runner Trail Edition
    If I'm not mistaken, Naches Pass opened up today. Normally it is closed from November 15th-July 15th.

    We have some maps of some areas on NWToys. Here is the maps page, Check us out, most of us there are somewhat familiar with the area.
     
  7. Jul 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM
    #7
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    Great info, thanks for the link. Will do some more research on that for sure.
     
  8. Jul 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM
    #8
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    BAM!

    Went down and checked out Naches. The lower (most difficult) section of the lower trail is closed, but we got thru the rest of the middle and upper parts of the lower trail:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    This was really the only hairy part because the choke is so narrow for a second gen. There's a lot of jeep paint on that stump! p.s., the camera really flattens this out -- this is about a 45-50 percent grade (percent, not degrees):

    [​IMG]


    Once you get past the choke you are pretty much committed. Actually there was another part on a rocky knoll that was sketchball for a stock rig. There's like a 16" step down a bedrock ledge/chunk at the apex of the knoll and i thought i was gonna bottom for sure. Careful line picking by my spotter got us thru it (no pix -- too busy puckering)

    [​IMG]


    Random blown-out culvert obstacle on one of the side access roads.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]


    My buddy scouted the trails first with his rig to make sure I could run it -- 1954 Jeep M36-A1 -- that little bugger goes places!

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Jul 17, 2010 at 10:14 PM
    #9
    Digiratus

    Digiratus Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34006
    Messages:
    10,820
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    the Pacific Northwest, Exploring
    Vehicle:
    The RedHead
    King ET Coilovers Camburg Uniball UCAs Alcan 8-Leaf Rear Spring Packs Fox 2.0 Resi Rear Shocks FrankenFab Rear Shock Relocate Trail Gear U-bolt Flip Toytec 1" Extended Shackle 4.88 Nitro Gears ARB Front Locker OBA ARB Twin Comp 15x8 D Window Steelies 33" BFG KM2s Limited Edition Elite Front Bumper Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch PIAA 510 SMR Fog Lights Lightforce 170s Badland Sliders FrankenFab Tire Carrier Swingout bumper w/kitchen BudBuilt Front & Bellypan Skids BAMF Rear Diff Skid Whynter 65 qt. Fridge/Freezer CVT Mt Bachelor RTT Badland Custom Bed Rack GM 140 amp alternator Optima Yellow Top battery Magnaflow 18" Muffler Braided Steel Brake Lines AFE Pro Dry S air filter ScanGauge II OBDII Scanner Uniden 520xl CB radio 3' Firestik Adjustable tip antenna Pioneer DEH-P9400BH HU Alpine Amps & Type R components (F) and coaxials (R) Wet Okole Seat Covers Weathertech Digital Liners Deck Plate Mod 1" Diff Drop Carrier Bearing Drop
    Looks like you guys had a good time. Glad to hear your Tacoma took care of you.

    Did you guys stop where the trail crosses FS70 or go clear across to the east side where the trail crosses FS19? The pics look like they are all from the portions of the trail west of FS70 is why I ask.
     
  10. Jul 17, 2010 at 10:22 PM
    #10
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    We just did a short ~3 or so mile segment of the lower naches trail. We started where it says "alternate entry" on the map that Kilted linked to, and ended where it says "10.8 miles from hwy 410". I assume FS19 is way farther east somewhere?


    p.s., the mileages on that map are WAY off.
     
  11. Jul 18, 2010 at 12:29 AM
    #11
    Digiratus

    Digiratus Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34006
    Messages:
    10,820
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    the Pacific Northwest, Exploring
    Vehicle:
    The RedHead
    King ET Coilovers Camburg Uniball UCAs Alcan 8-Leaf Rear Spring Packs Fox 2.0 Resi Rear Shocks FrankenFab Rear Shock Relocate Trail Gear U-bolt Flip Toytec 1" Extended Shackle 4.88 Nitro Gears ARB Front Locker OBA ARB Twin Comp 15x8 D Window Steelies 33" BFG KM2s Limited Edition Elite Front Bumper Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch PIAA 510 SMR Fog Lights Lightforce 170s Badland Sliders FrankenFab Tire Carrier Swingout bumper w/kitchen BudBuilt Front & Bellypan Skids BAMF Rear Diff Skid Whynter 65 qt. Fridge/Freezer CVT Mt Bachelor RTT Badland Custom Bed Rack GM 140 amp alternator Optima Yellow Top battery Magnaflow 18" Muffler Braided Steel Brake Lines AFE Pro Dry S air filter ScanGauge II OBDII Scanner Uniden 520xl CB radio 3' Firestik Adjustable tip antenna Pioneer DEH-P9400BH HU Alpine Amps & Type R components (F) and coaxials (R) Wet Okole Seat Covers Weathertech Digital Liners Deck Plate Mod 1" Diff Drop Carrier Bearing Drop
    Thats cool. Highly recommend trying the rest of it over to the east side.. You got a small taste of this trail by doing that very beginning section. There is a lot more to it.

    btw: there will be several of us that will doing the whole trail on the first Sat in Aug. At least that is the plan right now. If you are interested in joining us, you are certainly welcome.
     
  12. Jul 18, 2010 at 10:29 AM
    #12
    ForeRunner

    ForeRunner BBC. Bring Back Clarkson Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Member:
    #7
    Messages:
    6,930
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Drunken Sailor
    Paroled from CA!
    Vehicle:
    4Runner Trail Edition
    First Sat in August? I might be game for that. Camping overnight or making the run in one day?
     
  13. Jul 18, 2010 at 10:30 AM
    #13
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    I'd love to join you guys, if you feel pretty confident that I could get thru everything with the stock setup. I don't have sliders or any undercarriage protection, so that is my main concern -- I definitely wouldn't want to hold you guys back if there are any sections that I might struggle on. But if you think it could be done stock without too much fuss, then count me in! :)
     
  14. Jul 18, 2010 at 6:43 PM
    #14
    Digiratus

    Digiratus Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34006
    Messages:
    10,820
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    the Pacific Northwest, Exploring
    Vehicle:
    The RedHead
    King ET Coilovers Camburg Uniball UCAs Alcan 8-Leaf Rear Spring Packs Fox 2.0 Resi Rear Shocks FrankenFab Rear Shock Relocate Trail Gear U-bolt Flip Toytec 1" Extended Shackle 4.88 Nitro Gears ARB Front Locker OBA ARB Twin Comp 15x8 D Window Steelies 33" BFG KM2s Limited Edition Elite Front Bumper Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch PIAA 510 SMR Fog Lights Lightforce 170s Badland Sliders FrankenFab Tire Carrier Swingout bumper w/kitchen BudBuilt Front & Bellypan Skids BAMF Rear Diff Skid Whynter 65 qt. Fridge/Freezer CVT Mt Bachelor RTT Badland Custom Bed Rack GM 140 amp alternator Optima Yellow Top battery Magnaflow 18" Muffler Braided Steel Brake Lines AFE Pro Dry S air filter ScanGauge II OBDII Scanner Uniden 520xl CB radio 3' Firestik Adjustable tip antenna Pioneer DEH-P9400BH HU Alpine Amps & Type R components (F) and coaxials (R) Wet Okole Seat Covers Weathertech Digital Liners Deck Plate Mod 1" Diff Drop Carrier Bearing Drop
    Planning on Sat Aug.7th. We have talked about camping somewhere along the little naches river. There are a lot of places as well as organized campgrounds in that area. If we did that, we'd probably run the Ravens Roost trail in the morning before heading back.
     
  15. Jul 18, 2010 at 6:51 PM
    #15
    Digiratus

    Digiratus Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34006
    Messages:
    10,820
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    the Pacific Northwest, Exploring
    Vehicle:
    The RedHead
    King ET Coilovers Camburg Uniball UCAs Alcan 8-Leaf Rear Spring Packs Fox 2.0 Resi Rear Shocks FrankenFab Rear Shock Relocate Trail Gear U-bolt Flip Toytec 1" Extended Shackle 4.88 Nitro Gears ARB Front Locker OBA ARB Twin Comp 15x8 D Window Steelies 33" BFG KM2s Limited Edition Elite Front Bumper Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch PIAA 510 SMR Fog Lights Lightforce 170s Badland Sliders FrankenFab Tire Carrier Swingout bumper w/kitchen BudBuilt Front & Bellypan Skids BAMF Rear Diff Skid Whynter 65 qt. Fridge/Freezer CVT Mt Bachelor RTT Badland Custom Bed Rack GM 140 amp alternator Optima Yellow Top battery Magnaflow 18" Muffler Braided Steel Brake Lines AFE Pro Dry S air filter ScanGauge II OBDII Scanner Uniden 520xl CB radio 3' Firestik Adjustable tip antenna Pioneer DEH-P9400BH HU Alpine Amps & Type R components (F) and coaxials (R) Wet Okole Seat Covers Weathertech Digital Liners Deck Plate Mod 1" Diff Drop Carrier Bearing Drop
    Well, I haven't run this trail in a couple of years. I've heard its a lot tamer than it used to be. Can't really know until we get there though. It also depends on how wet it is. I'll bet right now there's hardly any mud at all but that can change between now and then. It definately gets more challanging the wetter it is.

    Is your rig equipped with the e-locker rear diff? What kind of tires you running?
     
  16. Jul 18, 2010 at 10:52 PM
    #16
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    Yeah, I have a locker and I'm running stock Rugged Trails. I'm not so concerned about mud/traction as I am about bottoming out on hard protrusions and scraping up my sides thru narrow chokes between rocks/trees. The two tricky parts on the lower naches section that I did (that I described in my photo post above) were pretty close to my truck's limits, so if there's a lot more of the same on the main trail it might be questionable. I'm all for trying, as long as I can get recovered by another vehicle without serious carnage! :eek:
     
  17. Jul 19, 2010 at 12:03 AM
    #17
    Digiratus

    Digiratus Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34006
    Messages:
    10,820
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    the Pacific Northwest, Exploring
    Vehicle:
    The RedHead
    King ET Coilovers Camburg Uniball UCAs Alcan 8-Leaf Rear Spring Packs Fox 2.0 Resi Rear Shocks FrankenFab Rear Shock Relocate Trail Gear U-bolt Flip Toytec 1" Extended Shackle 4.88 Nitro Gears ARB Front Locker OBA ARB Twin Comp 15x8 D Window Steelies 33" BFG KM2s Limited Edition Elite Front Bumper Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch PIAA 510 SMR Fog Lights Lightforce 170s Badland Sliders FrankenFab Tire Carrier Swingout bumper w/kitchen BudBuilt Front & Bellypan Skids BAMF Rear Diff Skid Whynter 65 qt. Fridge/Freezer CVT Mt Bachelor RTT Badland Custom Bed Rack GM 140 amp alternator Optima Yellow Top battery Magnaflow 18" Muffler Braided Steel Brake Lines AFE Pro Dry S air filter ScanGauge II OBDII Scanner Uniden 520xl CB radio 3' Firestik Adjustable tip antenna Pioneer DEH-P9400BH HU Alpine Amps & Type R components (F) and coaxials (R) Wet Okole Seat Covers Weathertech Digital Liners Deck Plate Mod 1" Diff Drop Carrier Bearing Drop
    The first time I ran the Naches trail, I was pretty much stock except for tires. Had 31" bfg muds. The tires made it possible. Stock Tacomas have plenty a grond clearance if you take it slow. A lack of traction, either because of loose dirt or slippery, muddy conditions can cause the use of too much speed, getting you into trouble. Despite the name, rugged trails are not a very good off-road tire. Airing them down significantly will help in dry conditions but if its muddy they will load up very quickly and cause a loss of traction.

    As for narrow, off-camber spots, there will be some more of those. Your 2nd gen being wider than a 1st gen is going to be vulnerable in those situations.
     
  18. Jul 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM
    #18
    BenWA

    BenWA [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Member:
    #13977
    Messages:
    1,580
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
    Vehicle:
    '06 Double Cab TRD Off Road 4X4
    Good insight, thanks. I may try running the trail on my dirt bike this weekend to check out conditions and get the jist of the trickier sections.
     
  19. Jul 20, 2010 at 10:40 AM
    #19
    ForeRunner

    ForeRunner BBC. Bring Back Clarkson Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Member:
    #7
    Messages:
    6,930
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Drunken Sailor
    Paroled from CA!
    Vehicle:
    4Runner Trail Edition
    August 7th is the tenative date then?

    I think I can grab a few folks from NWToys to tag along.

    I've never been so I'll follow along.

    Who has what in regards to gear?

    I have a 2003 Tacoma, ARB, Winch, Demello rear bumber w/ recovery points, slight lift, BFG A/T's CB, snatch strap, tree protector, jumper cables, clevis's and various other wheeling gear items.

    On a side note, I'll have my son with me I would ask that there be no drinking of alcoholc beverages.
     
  20. Jul 20, 2010 at 2:24 PM
    #20
    all.on.black

    all.on.black Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2008
    Member:
    #4066
    Messages:
    1,481
    Gender:
    Male
    Auburn, WA
    Vehicle:
    06 Double Cab Sport with a few mods
    If you're worried about damage I'd stay away from Evans. It's very tight and easy to slide around into trees.

    As a side note, I'd love to go to Naches so let me know when you have a date set in stone.
     
To Top