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Sterdog · Jan 14, 2020

Baseball is a cheaters sport. Don't take that wrong, I'm a Jay's fan, but the game has a lack of fair play in its DNA. So many scandals coupled with infallible barely consistent officials is just what baseball is and will always be. No other major sport has this level of fuckery, it's not even close.

lesterb315 · Jan 14, 2020

I’m sure every team cheats, the thing is to NOT get caught, which in this case the Astros got caught and now have to pay up.

bajatacoguy · Jan 15, 2020

TacoHank1998 said: ↑

Ok... yeah... they "cheated"

But so did the Patriots
So did the Saints
So did just about ALL baseball players in the 90's.

So gasp... cheating happens. Who knew?! 100% of anyone participating in ANY SPORT "cheats" or at least bends the rules in some way.

The way I see it... if the Dodgers were a better team... the sign stealing wouldn't have made any difference. I would be willing to bet Bottom Dollar every batter who faced Cole this year pretty much knew what pitch was coming but still couldn't hit it.

I'm not seeing how this is becoming the Scandal it has become. When I was playing Middle School football we had people reading the lips of the opposing coach... then with a little homework we were able to decipher the plays.

This is basically just good offseason drama for the MLB. Plain and simple.
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Lol

jtaco11 · Jan 15, 2020

Change the signals pretty simple. Like college test cheating everyone does. Professor too lazy change the test from prior periods. No one to blame but yourself

Don5352 · Jan 15, 2020

Fuck the Doyers. Fuck the sports writers. Bunch of crybabies.

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They are fining teams who try to steal signs ...hahahaha..got out just in time .

Ok...I feel a need to speak out, normal is changing, and today's norm is not the norm.
For 26 years I was in the big leagues , 10 as a player, 16 as a 3rd base coach , 20 if you count the other years learning the craft in the minor leagues , from Boise , to Wichita. The seriousness of the writer, the expertise from the front office man, the commissioner, to those who have never lived it. Here it is...I have 25 World Series games under my belt, 7 elimination games, and a 7th game of a World Series. 5 World Series ,3 World Championships I know it don't mean much to those in front of a computer, with the answers and all the rules. So I'm gonna make a long story short. I had a video camera on every 3rd base coach every single night, I spent hours logging tapes trying to steal your signs and finding a way to beat you. You as well did it, in New York I knew the Valentine Mets did it, I knew the Cubs did it, I knew the Dbacks, St. Louis did it, I caught them, that's when the fun begins , you fuck em up by changing signs, you tell the boys " if I put a hit and run on first pitch don't do anything, they will pitch out and now they don't have the signs, and you're in a hitters count" the list goes on and on.....if you aren't smart enough ( and believe me this isn't rocket science, it's being somewhat aware) it's your fault, now the game is turned into no breaking up double plays , don't slide hard at home, don't block the plate.if you are not creative enough to derail them, you've stopped thinking. As far as some of the greatest baseball writers who I love, read and listen to, and hang with. You are so off on the sign stuff. It's a high stakes poker game, big money especially as coaches . If you get caught , if your signs are stolen and you don't know in the moment they are close, they are on you...your not thinking, and now because of that the commissioner comes in not understanding, the writers write stealing signs is wrong. We had an advance scout that could watch your 3rd base coach for 3 days and be real close to getting his signs. He would send his report and I would watch you, or have a camera on you, if you haven't played , you don't understand how important this part of the game should be. You don't understand I would not only try and steal your hit and run sign, I would put our hit and run on that my guys knew, then in the same sequence put the other teams hit and run on so when they look at their cameras that we all used to steal the signs they would see and in their minds " shit they have the same sign for hit and run we have". It's propaganda war fare, its trying to beat you......so why you claim people aren't watching baseball because it takes to long, I say your taking the smarts out of it. ...I tried every night for 16 years to steal your signs either writing every thing you did down, or by looking at tapes because I had a camera on you, just like you had on me. Please leave the game alone, and every writer who wrote articles on this..be in church Sunday,because I know for a fact everyone of you looked at body language , vibe, and found a way to snake another writer to get the feature, get the win., leaving it with no creativity, no thinking, and the dumbing down of the greatest game ever......not that I know anything about it....Peace Tim Flannery.

loyaltothetaco · Jan 15, 2020

Don5352 said: ↑

Fuck the Doyers. Fuck the sports writers. Bunch of crybabies.

·

They are fining teams who try to steal signs ...hahahaha..got out just in time .

Ok...I feel a need to speak out, normal is changing, and today's norm is not the norm.
For 26 years I was in the big leagues , 10 as a player, 16 as a 3rd base coach , 20 if you count the other years learning the craft in the minor leagues , from Boise , to Wichita. The seriousness of the writer, the expertise from the front office man, the commissioner, to those who have never lived it. Here it is...I have 25 World Series games under my belt, 7 elimination games, and a 7th game of a World Series. 5 World Series ,3 World Championships I know it don't mean much to those in front of a computer, with the answers and all the rules. So I'm gonna make a long story short. I had a video camera on every 3rd base coach every single night, I spent hours logging tapes trying to steal your signs and finding a way to beat you. You as well did it, in New York I knew the Valentine Mets did it, I knew the Cubs did it, I knew the Dbacks, St. Louis did it, I caught them, that's when the fun begins , you fuck em up by changing signs, you tell the boys " if I put a hit and run on first pitch don't do anything, they will pitch out and now they don't have the signs, and you're in a hitters count" the list goes on and on.....if you aren't smart enough ( and believe me this isn't rocket science, it's being somewhat aware) it's your fault, now the game is turned into no breaking up double plays , don't slide hard at home, don't block the plate.if you are not creative enough to derail them, you've stopped thinking. As far as some of the greatest baseball writers who I love, read and listen to, and hang with. You are so off on the sign stuff. It's a high stakes poker game, big money especially as coaches . If you get caught , if your signs are stolen and you don't know in the moment they are close, they are on you...your not thinking, and now because of that the commissioner comes in not understanding, the writers write stealing signs is wrong. We had an advance scout that could watch your 3rd base coach for 3 days and be real close to getting his signs. He would send his report and I would watch you, or have a camera on you, if you haven't played , you don't understand how important this part of the game should be. You don't understand I would not only try and steal your hit and run sign, I would put our hit and run on that my guys knew, then in the same sequence put the other teams hit and run on so when they look at their cameras that we all used to steal the signs they would see and in their minds " shit they have the same sign for hit and run we have". It's propaganda war fare, its trying to beat you......so why you claim people aren't watching baseball because it takes to long, I say your taking the smarts out of it. ...I tried every night for 16 years to steal your signs either writing every thing you did down, or by looking at tapes because I had a camera on you, just like you had on me. Please leave the game alone, and every writer who wrote articles on this..be in church Sunday,because I know for a fact everyone of you looked at body language , vibe, and found a way to snake another writer to get the feature, get the win., leaving it with no creativity, no thinking, and the dumbing down of the greatest game ever......not that I know anything about it....Peace Tim Flannery.
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Dammit Tim you're incriminating the Giants! Lol. Good point tho...

kjttaco · Jan 15, 2020

Heat seems to be on Beltran now. Seems that Cora threw him under the bus a while ago

GQ7227 · Jan 15, 2020

jtaco11 said: ↑

Change the signals pretty simple. Like college test cheating everyone does. Professor too lazy change the test from prior periods. No one to blame but yourself
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except now there is a 'limited' # of mound visits to do that and make sure everybody is on the same page in the middle if you feel the other team is catching on?

canonmutant · Jan 15, 2020

Don5352 said: ↑

Fuck the Doyers. Fuck the sports writers. Bunch of crybabies.

·

They are fining teams who try to steal signs ...hahahaha..got out just in time .

Ok...I feel a need to speak out, normal is changing, and today's norm is not the norm.
For 26 years I was in the big leagues , 10 as a player, 16 as a 3rd base coach , 20 if you count the other years learning the craft in the minor leagues , from Boise , to Wichita. The seriousness of the writer, the expertise from the front office man, the commissioner, to those who have never lived it. Here it is...I have 25 World Series games under my belt, 7 elimination games, and a 7th game of a World Series. 5 World Series ,3 World Championships I know it don't mean much to those in front of a computer, with the answers and all the rules. So I'm gonna make a long story short. I had a video camera on every 3rd base coach every single night, I spent hours logging tapes trying to steal your signs and finding a way to beat you. You as well did it, in New York I knew the Valentine Mets did it, I knew the Cubs did it, I knew the Dbacks, St. Louis did it, I caught them, that's when the fun begins , you fuck em up by changing signs, you tell the boys " if I put a hit and run on first pitch don't do anything, they will pitch out and now they don't have the signs, and you're in a hitters count" the list goes on and on.....if you aren't smart enough ( and believe me this isn't rocket science, it's being somewhat aware) it's your fault, now the game is turned into no breaking up double plays , don't slide hard at home, don't block the plate.if you are not creative enough to derail them, you've stopped thinking. As far as some of the greatest baseball writers who I love, read and listen to, and hang with. You are so off on the sign stuff. It's a high stakes poker game, big money especially as coaches . If you get caught , if your signs are stolen and you don't know in the moment they are close, they are on you...your not thinking, and now because of that the commissioner comes in not understanding, the writers write stealing signs is wrong. We had an advance scout that could watch your 3rd base coach for 3 days and be real close to getting his signs. He would send his report and I would watch you, or have a camera on you, if you haven't played , you don't understand how important this part of the game should be. You don't understand I would not only try and steal your hit and run sign, I would put our hit and run on that my guys knew, then in the same sequence put the other teams hit and run on so when they look at their cameras that we all used to steal the signs they would see and in their minds " shit they have the same sign for hit and run we have". It's propaganda war fare, its trying to beat you......so why you claim people aren't watching baseball because it takes to long, I say your taking the smarts out of it. ...I tried every night for 16 years to steal your signs either writing every thing you did down, or by looking at tapes because I had a camera on you, just like you had on me. Please leave the game alone, and every writer who wrote articles on this..be in church Sunday,because I know for a fact everyone of you looked at body language , vibe, and found a way to snake another writer to get the feature, get the win., leaving it with no creativity, no thinking, and the dumbing down of the greatest game ever......not that I know anything about it....Peace Tim Flannery.
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Murph! Where the hell you been? I remember you . . .

Glad to hear you're still breathin'

kjttaco · Jan 16, 2020

Carlos Beltran
Unemployed by NY Mets
Who is next?

NAAC3TACO · Jan 16, 2020

Do you think Bruce Bochy’s phone is ringing off the hook?

uurx · Jan 16, 2020

new news
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...-alyssa-nakken-first-female-coach-mlb-history

jamesfishn09 · Jan 16, 2020

Don5352 said: ↑

Fuck the Doyers. Fuck the sports writers. Bunch of crybabies.

·

They are fining teams who try to steal signs ...hahahaha..got out just in time .

Ok...I feel a need to speak out, normal is changing, and today's norm is not the norm.
For 26 years I was in the big leagues , 10 as a player, 16 as a 3rd base coach , 20 if you count the other years learning the craft in the minor leagues , from Boise , to Wichita. The seriousness of the writer, the expertise from the front office man, the commissioner, to those who have never lived it. Here it is...I have 25 World Series games under my belt, 7 elimination games, and a 7th game of a World Series. 5 World Series ,3 World Championships I know it don't mean much to those in front of a computer, with the answers and all the rules. So I'm gonna make a long story short. I had a video camera on every 3rd base coach every single night, I spent hours logging tapes trying to steal your signs and finding a way to beat you. You as well did it, in New York I knew the Valentine Mets did it, I knew the Cubs did it, I knew the Dbacks, St. Louis did it, I caught them, that's when the fun begins , you fuck em up by changing signs, you tell the boys " if I put a hit and run on first pitch don't do anything, they will pitch out and now they don't have the signs, and you're in a hitters count" the list goes on and on.....if you aren't smart enough ( and believe me this isn't rocket science, it's being somewhat aware) it's your fault, now the game is turned into no breaking up double plays , don't slide hard at home, don't block the plate.if you are not creative enough to derail them, you've stopped thinking. As far as some of the greatest baseball writers who I love, read and listen to, and hang with. You are so off on the sign stuff. It's a high stakes poker game, big money especially as coaches . If you get caught , if your signs are stolen and you don't know in the moment they are close, they are on you...your not thinking, and now because of that the commissioner comes in not understanding, the writers write stealing signs is wrong. We had an advance scout that could watch your 3rd base coach for 3 days and be real close to getting his signs. He would send his report and I would watch you, or have a camera on you, if you haven't played , you don't understand how important this part of the game should be. You don't understand I would not only try and steal your hit and run sign, I would put our hit and run on that my guys knew, then in the same sequence put the other teams hit and run on so when they look at their cameras that we all used to steal the signs they would see and in their minds " shit they have the same sign for hit and run we have". It's propaganda war fare, its trying to beat you......so why you claim people aren't watching baseball because it takes to long, I say your taking the smarts out of it. ...I tried every night for 16 years to steal your signs either writing every thing you did down, or by looking at tapes because I had a camera on you, just like you had on me. Please leave the game alone, and every writer who wrote articles on this..be in church Sunday,because I know for a fact everyone of you looked at body language , vibe, and found a way to snake another writer to get the feature, get the win., leaving it with no creativity, no thinking, and the dumbing down of the greatest game ever......not that I know anything about it....Peace Tim Flannery.
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Flan is the best-always. Here’s a quick taste of his band, “Tim Flannery and the Lunatic Fringe
https://youtu.be/Y2WKpMK345s

bagleboy · Jan 16, 2020

jtaco11 said: ↑

Change the signals pretty simple. Like college test cheating everyone does. Professor too lazy change the test from prior periods. No one to blame but yourself
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Maybe your a fucking low life cheater but not everyone is. Conscience is your responsiblity and no one else's. Granted we have people setting bad examples but they should be recognized as such not copied.

I hope they get a one year suspension for the entire team, everyone on the roster including the gm and manager. The Black sox were kicked out permanently. This wasn't one player caught on ped's, it was all of them for the entire year including post season.

El Duderino · Jan 16, 2020

Scouting prior games is much different then in game sign stealing using video feeds of catchers signals and relying it to your batter in real time. I’m all for advanced scouting and figuring out the old fashion way.

GQ7227 · Jan 17, 2020

fairly sure that Altuve had a rather impressive batting average
heard he denies having a pocket device or something like that

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/us/astros-jose-altuve-cheating-scandal-trnd/index.html

loyaltothetaco · Jan 17, 2020

Always enjoy reading this thread, especially with what's been going on lately...

enforcertaco91 · Jan 20, 2020

bagleboy said: ↑

This wasn't one player caught on ped's, it was all of them for the entire year including post season.
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Agree, they wouldn't of beaten Los Angeles otherwise.

TacoHank1998 · Jan 20, 2020

Everyone... was doing PEDs in that era.

It's now really "cheating" if everyone is doing it.

okie · Jan 21, 2020

Cheating in baseball gets you x amount of games suspended, managers case- fired..

Bet on your team to win baseball games its a permanent ban for life.

WTF

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