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Anybody Use Goodyear Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by amadougrand, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. Jan 25, 2011 at 11:54 PM
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    amadougrand

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    Does anybody have any experience with Goodyear Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar?

    I am seriously looking at these for my next set which I need soon. My biggest concerns:
    1. Sidewall strength (I tend to lose at leat 2 tires a year from this)
    2. Ability in mud/clay to "clean" and keep traction.
    3. On highway noise
    Forget wear life my concern is performance, but I still spend alot of time on pavement as well.

    Seems like every spring my biggest concern is not getting stuck again. I've had some really bad experiences. Wish I had the photos to prove it, but more than once I have had to walk out and I don't go un prepared. Once had two jeeps a tractor, 4 wheel drive back hoe and flat bed F250 stuck for 4 days before I could get a D8 to the job. Friggin mess to clean up for sure and the rancher I borrowed all the equipment from gave me a little speach as well.

    MW
     
  2. Jan 25, 2011 at 11:58 PM
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    hey just a suggestion, try searching first. There is a ton of info here if you are willing to dig a little.
     
  3. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:17 AM
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    Searched to start with, but the return was bad. Finally found two others who had the tiure and asked them what they thought.

    I really appreciate the smart response "try searching first." Here's a suggestion for you; if you don't have a response to the original question or side topic you don't have to respond. It is always nice to have the guy out there who feels it is there job to tell someone to search. Same on every forum and really obnoxious. Way to be that guy☺
     
  4. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:18 AM
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    i remember reading somewhere possibly pirate4x4, that that didn't perform as well as expected in mud, im not sure about the sidewalls, it also could have been a biased review, have you ever looked into pitbulls , i haven't heard too many bad things from them.
     
  5. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:29 AM
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    Thanks, but they don't work. Buddy of mine talked me into 18" wheels I spent considerable money on and have been regretting it ever since. I have the 3" suspension lift, but we all know the constraints with tire size on a 05+ Tacoma, so I'm looking for something like a 275 x 65 R18. I've actually consider ditch the 18" and going back to a 16, just to save money on tires and have more options.
     
  6. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:31 AM
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    Hey its a damn suggestion. Take it or leave it. I wasn't being a jerk, but I could be. I have seen tons of debates about this very subject here. Relax man. I rarely tell people to search unless I know there is good stuff that is easy to find. Check out tire rack and 1010 tires too. Sorry for trying to help. Damn .
     
  7. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:35 AM
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    Rog. I've seen so many people beat up for not searching, its the first thing I do anymore. That "hey just a suggestion" part of your post is what made it seem a little smart. No hard feelings.
     
  8. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:36 AM
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    Repost.
    Just a suggestion. If you search google and put tacomaword after the subject you might get some hits as well.
     
  9. Jan 26, 2011 at 12:54 AM
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    Thanks, that search method returned much more usable links than the forum search. Info is still patchy and the threads get hi-jacked pretty quickly and off topic.
     
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    That never happens here on TW...


    So we all know the world is supposed to end in 2012, but did you know December 21st is the exact date? :D


    Oh yeah, no useful info here, but I do want to know your final decision.
     
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    Not really in love with what I am reading about the Goodyear MTR Kevlar's so I was looking into what is available in an 18" wheel. Not much is the answer.

    In a 275/70R18 (I think these may rub)
    • Kumho Venture KL71 MT
    • Hercules Trail Digger MT
    • Firestone Destination MT
    • Nitto Trail Grappler
    In a 305/60R18 (not real excited about 12" wide tires(
    • BFG KM2
    • Dick Cepek MT
    In a 275/65R18 (The size I want), the only thing really there is the Goodyear MTR Kevlar.

    Anybody else with any ideas besides ditching the 18's?
     
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    I don't have any experience with the new mtr kevlars's but from the reviews i've read, this is what i understand

    1. The sidewall strength is good, much better than bfg's.
    2. Hit and miss, some good reviews, some bad.
    3. Highway noise is supposed to be very quiet for an aggressive tire.

    My next set of tires to replace my KM's will be a brand new set of MTR Kevlars.
     
  14. Jan 26, 2011 at 6:29 PM
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    Looks like it might be whitewalls for me :mad:
     
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    I love my MTRs and will likely get them again when it's time to change. They perform well on rocks trails and in the rain so far. They look beefy as shit. I got a ton of GY rebates so I didn't pay much for them.
     
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    I love my original MT/R's. I will be deff getting the Kevlars when these wear out.
     
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    When is that? I got like 240 in rebates. 160 from GY card and 80 from Treadlightly.com
     
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    Its my guess that when GY designed them the best performance was achieved with White Out. Nice to have both looks and performance, but if I have to choose you knwo the answer.

    If you have data/experience that says otherwise, please share as I would surely prefer black out.
     
  19. Jan 26, 2011 at 7:40 PM
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    Noise is reasonable but you wouldn't mistake it for an AT.

    Sounds like you're most concerned about mud. I did some research before buying, but I wanted an agressive tire for trails that would resist cuts, and I don't really seek out deep mud holes.

    In the published reviews from glossy mags, when compared to other mud tires, the MT/R Kevlar did NOT get the best reviews on self-cleanout in muddy patches.

    You should know that MT/R stands for "Multi-Terrain/Radial" NOT "Mud-Terrain/Radial." I tend to think of the tire as an extremely aggressive AT because that's how I use it. Good Year would probably cringe.

    Bottom line: it's got good grip, but there's a limit to what any rubber can do for you. I've watched FJs wheel through a soft patch using their lockers and ATrac on simple AT tires where I got stopped with spinning wheels using these tires because I had open diffs and no A-Trac.
     
  20. Jan 26, 2011 at 7:47 PM
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    I understand direction is not changed, but the more aggresive lug concentration would be to the inside instead of the outside. Given that I run a fairly neutral camber this may not be as big an issue, but if that were to change due to unloading or hop then it seems to me that when the vehicle is lightest you want to maintain traction and at this point the outer edge would be most in contact.

    In a on pavement scenario I agree that there should be minimal difference.

    I appreciate your effort and would appreciate a another response to what I have just stated as my understanding/analysis of the pattern.

    MW
     
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