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anyone get there rotors turned anymore

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by montanacruiser, Jun 17, 2021.

  1. Jun 17, 2021 at 4:27 PM
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    montanacruiser

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    Hi all I have about 40,000 on the truck and I am getting the brake slap really bad. Also I am experiencing some pulsing when I am coming to a stop. Was wondering if new pads and may be getting my rotors turned might help?
    Thanks
     
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  2. Jun 17, 2021 at 6:20 PM
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    what is the brake slap? 40,000 seems kinda early to be needing brakes. Unless you tow a lot.
     
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    What do you mean by "pulsing"? Typically when your rotors are warped, you feel a vibration shimmy in the steering wheel. Is that what you are describing?
     
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    With tacoma if its shuddering while braking its too late, the runout is too large and cutting will just induce a future problem.

    I cut rotors using an on-car-lathe and it works really well on tacomas, but there needs to be minimal runout or hot spots.

    Simply put, you need rotors.
     
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    I do a lot of city driving and 30-40Kmi is typically when I end up doing brakes due to pulsation. (Not sure about the "slap")
    Getting rotors turned should help with the pulsing, but I'd consider just buying new rotors and pads.
    It takes too much time to run the rotors to a store, wait for someone to machine them, and then drive back to finish up.
    Cost of decent rotors is not much more than turning them. I've used Raybestos Element3 rotors/pads from RockAuto on several vehicles over the past few years and they seem about equal to OEM for ~$100 all in.
     
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    Just put on new rotors and pads, way easier

    I’m at 115k and still on the originals with plenty of life left. About 15k of those miles are towing.
     
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    Even back in 1998 we rarely turned rotors, our Ammco brake lathe just collected dust.

    The only time we fired it up was for super expensive / rare rotors drums
     
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    I don’t. My reasoning is turning the rotors removes material and mass. Mass of the rotor is a major factor determining how much heat they can absorb before warping.

    If you warp a set of rotors, and turn them, odds are you’ll warp them again. I say rotors are cheap, pitch’em and get new ones when you change pads.

    Also, verify your calipers are in good working order and bleed your brakes while you’re at it.
     
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  9. Jun 17, 2021 at 7:23 PM
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    Dont throw your old rotors away, they are worth money for recycling. Take them to your nearest shop, there will be someone who works there that collects scrap to bring to the recycler. Either give them to that person for free, or tell them to buy you a soda for them. Or you can bring them to the recycler your self and get a few nickels back.
     
  10. Jun 17, 2021 at 7:25 PM
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    Fair point.

    But don’t bother turning them. Discard, turn them into ash trays, throw them at the neighbors, tie one to the neighbor’s dog that keeps crapping in your yard, but don’t reduce the mass of them by turning expect them to work better.
     
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  11. Jun 17, 2021 at 7:30 PM
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    I am curious about this on car lathe set up. Are they expensive or hard to find? The reason I ask is a old Corvette I'm working on doesn't have a floating caliper.
    Sorry to hijack OP. 40k miles seems way early to need brakes.
     
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    Yeah, I agree generally turning is useless at this point. I have turned a few rotors, but it usually results in rotors warping right away again anyways and I have to do the job again.
     
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    Most larger dealers have them, they are extremely expensive. Most older cars you service the bearing anyway so you machine it on a standard lathe then repack bearings.
     
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    Yeah, I'm finding this rotor turning is pretty much pointless. At least on my daily driver car. The first brake job I just put replacement rotors on but kept the originals. Second brake job I had the original rotors turned and they warped in a short time.
     
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    Replace the rotors. Cheaper than turning.
     
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    I tried turning my rotors and it ended up ruining my new TRD pads less than three thousand miles later. A Tacoma with warped rotors is a miserable experience and makes you avoid driving anywhere. I ultimately ended up switching to cryo treated Brembo rotors after my second set of OEM rotors warped. My truck is very heavy due to all the armor, 35’s and pulling trailers regularly. That being said, if you’re close to factory tire size and don’t pull a trailer regularly just get some new OEM rotors and pads. They are cheap and work very well.
     
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    Yeah likewise, and realistically if you are towing a proper setup, you are not putting any more strain on your brakes (think trailer brakes). I did 100k on my originals of 50/50 city highway driving and they had 10-15k more, but 100k seemed like a good time to just replace again with OEM stuff n call it good.

    If you are only getting 40k outta a set of brakes either 1. you are running way bigger heavier tires, or 2. in too much of rush.
     
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    Thanks for all the replies. I will just get new rotors. The pulsing I am getting is when I am coming to a stop It feels like the brakes are engaging then letting off and engaging again. Its subtle but there. The brake slap is what really bothers me. Its loud and happens every time I go reverse to drive. I am sure I have plenty of life on the pads but I must have warped the rotors form over heating them. I remember seeing a thread about some slotted rotors and trd pads but think it was for the 2nd gen.
     
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    A set of standard brake rotors are so relatively inexpensive I don't see the point in trying to turn them or resurface them, just grab a set from the local auto parts store and slap 'em on with new pads. Enjoy smooth braking afterward
     
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    Never for me. Always new rotors, pads, drums, shoes, wheel cylinders, rubber/braided stainless hoses, and a brake bleed/flush
     

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