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Anyone here refuse to watch non Blue Ray movies?

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  1. Nov 2, 2009 at 3:11 PM
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    It's ridiculous to think that HD could give you a headache.

    It's how his television is setup, probably has it on some vivid mode or has the contrast/sharpness turned way up with detail enhancer bs cranked and all.

    With Blu-ray hooked to a television with HDMI the sharpness should be nearly as low as the TV lets you set it, because the signal is digital and 1:1 and adding sharpness is just adding artifacts and edge enhancement.

    When you go to the movie theater the resolution is FAR higher than what you see on a blu-ray, does that give you a headache?

    Alot of people crank sharpness and sharpness enhancing settings very high without realizing that it is destroying the integrity of the image.

    Things like pores on skin and hairs shouldn't stand out on blu-ray any more than they would at the movie theater, they should be more visible when you look at them, but they shouldn't stand out. If they are, it is either some detail enhancement filter that is messing up the image or the sharpness is way too high.


    Blu-ray is nothing more than a disc, just like a DVD or CD that holds alot more data, allowing them to fit an HD movie on it which has a very large file size. Blu-ray discs are usually either 25GB or 50GB if they are dual layer.

    Its like a bigger hard drive for the movie to be put on.



    Also, you all might aswell get used to it because it won't be many years before everything you see anywhere is HD. :p



    Also the 120hz "motion enhancement" modes on TVs are BS and terrible.

    The real reason for 120hz is that it allows you to watch movies at 24 frames per second, which is what they are filmed at, it makes the motion smoother.

    Any kind of 120hz motion enhancement mode should be off, it creates fake frames or repeats frames which adds artifacts and makes motion look like it was filmed with a handycam.

    A 120hz television is ALWAYS running at 120hz, you can't change it. 120hz allows you to view more different framerates, because on a 60hz television you cannot natively view 24hz material, so it is scaled by oddly repeating frames which creates motion juddger.

    If you watch something that is running at 60 frames per second on a 120hz television every frame will flash twice, but this is undetectible to the viewer compares to watching something running at 60fps on a 60hz display.


    So a 120hz display is good to have, but the silly motion enhancing features on them aren't.
     
  2. Nov 2, 2009 at 3:18 PM
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    I have DirecTV HD...and if I have a choice I'll watch a movie on HD HBO or whatever instead of SD...

    But I'm not about to buy a BluRay DVD player when my entire collection is SD....and sooner or later it'll be on PPV or premium channels in HD.
     
  3. Nov 2, 2009 at 3:22 PM
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    Blu Ray is great. HD is awesome. I am spoiled!
     
  4. Nov 2, 2009 at 3:25 PM
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    Well, blu-ray players are the best players for regular DVDs aswell. The technology is much newer in them and they are better at upscaling regular DVDs than any even semi-affordable upscaling player you're gonna find. And you say you have a collection, so why not keep those for what they are and buy stuff you want in the future on blu-ray?

    If you shop at the right places for the blu-rays they are hardly any more expensive than DVDs and sometimes cheaper, on Amazon.com for example a new blu-ray is on average about $20. The usual premium over a DVD is just a couple bucks.

    Hell, I looked at GI Joe and the 2 disc Blu-ray with digital copy is $19.99 and the 2 disc DVD is $22.99.

    Places like Best Buy mark the prices way up though.


    Another thing blu-ray offers is DTS Master Audio/ Dolby Digital True HD which sounds much better than your standard DTS/DD if you have a good setup.
     
  5. Nov 2, 2009 at 3:43 PM
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    i have no clue what his settings are set at. watched it for 5 minutes. granted its a small room but i never saw the littleist details in peoples skin like i did on his tv.
    i know my tv doesnt look like that an my 42" is only 6 months old
     
  6. Nov 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM
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    I've watched movies on Hd tv's on blue ray disk and it didn't appeal to me for what they cost. My 10 year old tv and vhs' are just fine(to me). I'm just not big on spending money on that stuff.... of course i'm the one that gets laughed at for having 5 year old phones. I'd just rather spend money on huntin or fishin stuff.
     
  7. Nov 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM
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    I will watch my current collection of DVDs. but refuse to buy or rent anything that is not on blu-ray.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2009 at 4:02 PM
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    honestly i havent seen a blueray disk, is there really that much of a difference
     
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    Basically, yes there is. It stands out more in some cases than in others.

    DVD has a 640 x 480 screen resolution. Blu-ray has a 1920 x 1080 screen resolution.

    The noticable difference gets bigger and bigger the larger the television is. It also depends on how close you are to the television, obviously. Many people, I find, sit much further away from their television than what would be optimal.

    Especially with HDTVs, where the 'proper' viewing distance is often much closer than people are used to.

    It also tends to stand out more when you try and go back to DVD after watching Blu-rays.

    And just like with DVDs, some movies have better transfers than others.


    If you've got an older 34" CRT HDTV then the difference is going to be noticable but not huge. If you've got a 50" 1080p LCD/Plasma then the difference is going to be jaw dropping (especially with an LCD, as LCDs are notoriously poor at displaying non-native resolutions, but have wonderful sharpness when fed a digital signal at their native resolution).
     
  10. Nov 3, 2009 at 8:52 AM
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    there is a slight difference in quality between blue ray and standard DVD. not enough to justify the cost increase and certainly not enough to get you "spoiled" to the point where you think standard DVD looks bootlegged. its not so much the technology (DVD vs Blu Ray) as it is how the movie was actually filmed. if the movie was not filmed in true hi def it doesn't matter if it is Blu Ray or not. for example, you wont be able to tell a difference between WALLe on blue ray and WALLe on DVD because the media itself was high def. save your money and get yourself an upconverting DVD player.
     
  11. Nov 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM
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    The cheapest Blu-Ray player that I have seen is a LG model (BD270) that is currently being sold for $128.49. It seems to be priced low for the upcoming holiday shopping season. Also, most Blu-Ray payers, including the LG model I'm referencing, are also up-converting DVD players, so you can watch all of your old DVD's on your HD TV without having to have two different players. Here are the links for the LG Blu-Ray player:

    http://www.amazon.com/LG-BD270-Blu-.../B002J9G59U/ref=de_a_smtd/188-1657705-5672858

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882005047
     
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    No. Just no.

    First off WALL-e wasn't filmed. It was made with computers, nothing was ever filmed.

    Live action movies, by and large, are filmed on 35mm film. 35mm film has a resolution equivalent that is FAR higher than even blu-ray.

    The idea that you couldn't tell the difference between walle on blu-ray and dvd is ridiculous.

    A DVD image is 640x480. A Blu-ray image is 1920x1080. That is the resolution of the images making up every frame. This means that the Blu-ray image is 6.75 times more detailed than the DVD image. 6.75 times the number of pixels.

    It doesn't matter what the source material was, when you take that source material, which was made at a ridiculously high resolution (far higher than blu-ray) because it was transfered to film, and you downscale it all the way to 640x480 you lose TONS of detail.

    Another factor is that most all of the televisions these days are fixed pixel displays, meaning they display everything at a certain resolution, usually 1080p now a days if you get a new HDTV. When you feed it material that is not 1080p, it scales the image up but this results in reduced image quality. When you feed it a 1080p source it will match up perfectly with no quality loss.

    Sorry about being anal about it, but this stuff is kinda what I do so hearing misinformation given as a recommendation just kinda irks me :p


    The noticable difference depends on many factors, but there will always be one if you are using an HDTV. It'd be silly not to go ahead and jump onboard. DVDs days are numbered and Blu-ray is just taking off. People against it are just like the people who didn't wanna leave VHS.


    And the reason a movie like Terminator doesn't look as much better on Blu-ray as you would expect is because it had a poor transfer. Its a good idea to read a review of a Blu-ray or DVD before you buy it, mainly with older movies. A Blu-ray review will have a long section about image quality and how well they made the transfer.

    Movies aren't just scanned onto a computer and printed on the discs. Companies spend millions of dollars working on the image quality to get it up to snuff. With older movies that are stored on film the quality degrades over time and sometimes they have to go frame by frame and touch up every one to get it up to snuff.

    Sometimes they don't do as good a job as they could have and you get a bad transfer.

    Also many of the first Blu-ray movies were VERY compressed which hurt the picture quality quite a bit and was the reason HD-DVD was winning the war for a long time. Newer Blu-rays are mostly up to snuff though, and getting better and better all the time.


    I mean come on, you can get a Blu-ray player for $130 and most new movies on Amazon.com are the exact same price or sometimes less than the DVDs.
     
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    I got to admit, Blue-Ray has a damn good picture quality, but for the price, I usually settle for a DVD.
     
  17. Nov 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM
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    Well I have a 52" Samsung 1080P full HD LCD TV. I can watch either blu-ray on my PS3 or I can watch standard def movies on my Pioneer upscaling dvd player. Its pretty nice! It upscales your standard dvd's into 1080p. Now of course the quality isnt the same compared to a blue-ray player or HD tv but I still think the picture looks great!!!:eek::D
     
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    DAMN ... I usually watch movies downloaded off the internet that were filmed by some guy holding a Handicam in the movie theatre. :eek::eek:

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    You know, the PS3 will also upscale your standard dvds to 1080p and it's one of the best upscaling players around...
     
  20. Nov 3, 2009 at 4:20 PM
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    Yeah I was looking at that on the setup menu. Never used it for my standard dvds though. Figured I would be using my PS3 to much, thats why I just kept using the Pioneer upscaler.:eek: Maybe I'll try it out one of these days!!:D
     

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