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Anyone rocking 5100 with 886?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by gordi, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. Dec 13, 2015 at 7:55 PM
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    gordi

    gordi [OP] Only had a wheel fall off once

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    My 885s on 5100 are only giving me 1 inch in the front. After less than a year they have sagged a ton. Thinking 886 since im going hybrid bumper and winch soon. I'll have ucas then also so I'm wondering if u used a spacer on top?
     
  2. Dec 14, 2015 at 3:45 AM
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    I did not use a spacer. I haven't noticed any lean on mine. Probably 2-3k on my setup. Did not drop much after it settled either. It's. A very stiff ride, but I like it.
     
  3. Dec 14, 2015 at 7:06 AM
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    How much lift did u get and any armor?
     
  4. Dec 14, 2015 at 8:38 AM
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    I don't have any installed right now. Like an idiot, I didn't measure before or after installing my lift. But it's definitely more than an inch
     
  5. Dec 14, 2015 at 8:55 AM
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    u can measure after. Since stock on a dbl cab in the front is 20.5inchs from center of the wheel to the top lip of the fender.
     
  6. Dec 14, 2015 at 9:00 AM
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    OME shocks and 886 coils. 5100s are not designed to handle the high spring rate of the 886s
     
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    they handle the 885 and 887 fine. Not that much more in spring weight with an 886. Heard any bad reasons as to why u cant? the OME shock sucks nuts.
     
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    There is no good reason why you cannot use 5100s and 886. Lots of people use that combo.
     
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    i want them to share.....
     
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    885s and 887s share the same spring rates and are different from 886s. Generally you can mount the 885s on 5100s at 0 and that is the max they recommend you going. While I am not recommending you do it, there are people on here that run them, I am not advising you or anyone else to run them together. 5100s are lifting shocks and OME are not. OME shocks are built and designed to handle that much spring rate and the 5100s are not..

    Can you do it, sure. Should you, no.

    Call some reputable vendors on here and they should be able guide you in the right direction.
     
  11. Dec 14, 2015 at 9:22 AM
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    5100 struts are designed to lift using the stock Tacoma coil springs by increasing preload. If you increase the preload of the progressive TRD Off-Road coil spring, the spring rate greatly increases. Given that fact, I'm not sure where people get off saying that the 5100 struts cannot handle higher spring rate coils.
     
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    im sure people will say no. Most will say buy coilovers which is the plan just further down the road. I just dont want as much front end sag and the OME shock is pretty poor in ride quality and everyone has the shock clank. Just not my cup of tea. If you dont have 5100 and 886 or experience with it then i appreciate the concern and if it breaks or whatever ill worry about it then. Just was wanting some research more than opinions.
     
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  13. Dec 14, 2015 at 9:26 AM
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    ya i have 885 and they are fine, but I have a IFS skid and sliders and im gettign 1 inch in the front of lift from the 885, Ill have a hyrbid bumper and winch in the next 9 months I think 887 wont hold all that.
     
  15. Dec 14, 2015 at 9:34 AM
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    I'm running the 885 coil, and 5100. It's a terrific combination, IMO. I'm under the impression my "lift" should be somewhere between 2-2.5"

    I have my measurements before replacing my OE suspension on paper somewhere. I can find them and compare to present to determine what the OME 885 coil and 5100 + some time have given me...

    Or better yet, I can also throw a tape measure on my truck and tell you hub to fender measurements? I know my drivers side is like 3/4" off from pass side due to taco lean...

    EDIT: @gordi added more text...
    To your question in the title, I've seen a number of people run the 886 and 5100 all with good results. With what you're doing to the truck it makes sense to use the stiffer coil.
     
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    the skid is maybe 50lbs? but i also took off about 15 from the stock skids and cross braces. Idk why they sag so bad but i have measured it and they dropped an inch and a quarter in 4500 miles over 7 months. I contacted the vendor and he said they may be a bad set and he would swap them for me. So i was deciding between 886 and 887 but with a hybrid bumper and winch with synthetic line i think 886 is my choice. I can add the spacer after if its not tall enough.

    @Crom
     
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    I'll measure here in a few. Trucks parked on a slope and I'll need to move it. Gotta get a few cups of Jo in me first
     
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    Once upon a time a long time ago OME springs had a rep for sagging, but that was in the past and the coils were redesigned... Your current situation seems really odd... that's just way too much loss of 1+1/4"...

    The 885 coil with +110 pounds on the front end of the truck is supposed to yield 2" of lift over stock. That's right out of the OME product catalog. Looked it up back in Noveber after discussing it with @OZ-T.
     
  19. Dec 14, 2015 at 10:06 AM
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    wheel hub center to fender line.
     
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    I've heard a lot of back and fourth opinions on this set up. I'm currently trying to decide on new springs to go with my 5100. I've been leaning heavily on the 886 do to my heavy armor. I don't see the harm in 886 as long as you keep the shock set at 0.
     
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