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Anyone running the 4x Innovations Bolt On Rear Bumper with Tire Carrier

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by SLCGUY, Apr 14, 2020.

  1. Jun 9, 2020 at 11:41 PM
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    I modified the swing out a bit and added a plate to give me some more adjustability for mounting. The propane mount is thru bolted to the plate and the rotopax mount is on a piece of steel also bolted to the plate.

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    I recently ordered a bumper and having an extra receiver welded on the swingout for my bike rack as well. Im wondering how well it clears the spare and gas cans. Do you have any pics of your bike and rack on the swingout?
     
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  3. Jun 10, 2020 at 10:59 AM
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    i looked took quite a few measurements and you can get rack specs usually from any companies website. I went with a kuat Sherpa with an 1 1/4 receiver and used a 2”- 1 1/4 adapter. This also got the rack out further past the tire. Originally I planned on a 2” receiver rack but realized that it was going to be super close to clearing when folded with my particular set up. Also that the weight difference between the 2” version and 1 1/4 was decent. The 1 1/4 in this rack hit the bikes up a little higher. I like that it’s compact compared to the NV or the 1up rack and weights a lot less. This is an old photo from back when I first did it but gives you an idea.

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  4. Jun 10, 2020 at 11:20 AM
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    Thanks for the pic. It does give me somewhat of an idea what Ill be up against. I am running a 1up Single (for now) bike carrier. They do have a short mounting point and like I guessed I might have to run a small extension from the looks of it. Im hoping not so I dont have a bunch of weight stressing that swing out even more.

    Do you have a rearview camera?
     
  5. Jun 10, 2020 at 11:42 AM
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    mid you have to use a 2” to 2” extension to get it out further it’s not a big deal, they don’t add that much weight. And I see people using larger bike racks as well on swing outs so either way it will be fine I’m sure. If you do have to use an extension you may want to consider something to take the slop out. The bike rack will take car of that at its mount point but the connection at the bumper will have slop. I drilled a hole and tacked a 1/2 -13 nut on the top of mine so I can thread a bolt down to keep the extension from moving.

    I have a back up can but it’s not hooked up right now, it’s mounted on the top corner of my camper, not the bumper tho.
     
  6. Jun 10, 2020 at 11:51 AM
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    I was wondering what that nut on the top was for. Thats a good idea that I may have to adapt to my setup. I do have an anti rattle I used for my prior setup with the FWC so that will definitely be coming back into play. Thanks again for the replies and giving me a piece of mine. Now I just wait for the bumper to arrive!
     
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  7. Jun 10, 2020 at 2:57 PM
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    :thumbsup:
     
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    Mock up done, 1/4” thick plate should hold up, lol. Its off to get sprayed. Getting there.

    The idea is to mount on the side of the jerry can mount, like Eazy.E said they’re super beef.

    I’ll get into more detail in a bit, with the final rundown.

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  9. Jun 11, 2020 at 5:27 AM
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    This is another great idea. I might have to borrow this one too, lol. I like that the propane will be right where I plan on doing all of the cooking from. My biggest concern being will the nuts/bolts rub on jerry/water cans?
     
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  10. Jun 11, 2020 at 6:24 AM
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    Yup that’s a good question, I’ll show you the fitment when it’s done. Its tight but there’s just enough clearance. I strapped down some jugs and they’re suuuper compressed by the jerry can “arm which means there’s hopefully little to no play when jumping around off-road. I was impressed with the whole system. But yea seemed as if in the corners where the bolts pop they there’s about 1/2” of room for a bolt head or nut.
     
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  11. Jun 11, 2020 at 9:24 PM
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    Another route a buddy of mine did was install two rib nuts on the top part of the swing out frame, fab up a bracket to have the tank sit above your jerry cans. And bolt it on.
     
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  12. Jun 12, 2020 at 6:43 AM
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    Dang that’s smart too, I never utilize riv nuts enough. I actually have that tool as well, lol. I’ll try this out see how she functions but if it’s wonky I’ll give that idea a go!
     
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  13. Jun 12, 2020 at 10:15 AM
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    Thats a great idea. Ive opted for the Hi Lift Jack mounts across the top.
     
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  14. Jun 12, 2020 at 1:55 PM
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    my swing out has those as well but I haven’t ever used them. High lifts are heavy so ive opted to mount it up front to try and keep some weight off the swing out. The hi lift tabs also make great lock points if your running a cable through any of your stuff on the back
     
  15. Jun 12, 2020 at 2:10 PM
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    I had an issue one time where the hi lift I was carrying actually came in to use and I was grateful to have it or else I would have been screwed. I like the piece of mind because Im normally by myself. But I have thought about switching to a heavier duty bottle jack!
     
  16. Jun 12, 2020 at 5:42 PM
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    I’m 100% with ya there, maybe I wasn’t clear, I carry mine all the time but I pointed it to my front bumper vs the swing out
     
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  17. Jun 13, 2020 at 9:15 AM
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    Alright 5lb propane tank bracket is in, holds the power tank mount perfectly. Used 1/2” spacers on all 8 bolts to give clearance. Stainless hardware, she’s burly. Only had to add two more holes on the jerry can mount. The thing I like about it as well is, by leaving the bracket lower and not utilizing the top two bolt holes on the power tank mount you can slip the propane retaining band off when not in use. That way it’s not flapping around.

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    Clearance looks great, just get your bolts appropriately sized. Otherwise it will be an issue.
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    Ok, review time. More of an initial impression on install and basic functionality since it's still so new. Ill be posting a lot of pictures here and will try to chime in above pics when it strikes me as relevant.

    Ill start by saying the @4x Innovations rear bumper, swing arm + accessories are unreal burly, has a precision fit, and seems as if it will outlast the truck its so beefy. Everything arrived bare steel for me, i believe powder coat was an option offered, but i went for a Line-X "bedliner type spray" that was done locally. Now that being said, Line-X is verrry thick shit and almost add 1/16" of material to the surface. This led to a very long install for me on almost every component. I knew this would be problematic going in, but after hearing from multiple local powder coaters i was quoted 4 weeks from almost everyone near me. This Line-x was a 48hr turnaround, i have the same thing on my rock sliders, looks sick, its basically bulletproof, butttttt by god it did not like playing nicely with that "precision fit". All in all i had time to get this done properly so its really no biggie, plus this coating was my decision so my issue to deal with.

    I guess just be weary of what type of coating you go with. It can lead to a painful install. Otherwise, the functionality, hardware, and overall look of everything put together... could not be happier!!! SO so happy with how everything turned out.



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    This Are where the swing arm slides into position, should not have been sprayed. This was among one of the many fitment issues. Leave this area lightly coated.

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    Decided to spray where the bumper connects with some primer, give it some love.
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    If you're installing everything solo, or even with a friend i highly recommend this little Harbor Freight 500lb hydraulic cart. So so so clutch for me, would not have been able to install any of the bulky parts without this thing. Love it.
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    Ran into another fitment issue with bolt holes lining up, due to the precision fit. The holes on the bumper give you forward and back play but almost zero up and down. I needed to bore out the bumper holes slightly larger to accommodate the thick bedliner coating. I had to take this bumper on and off to bore holes out almost 4-5 times, until i got it just right This was frustrating, but again without that little hydraulic cart, things could have been much worse, lol.
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    And she's on!
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    Try to showcase the fitment here. Its perfect and would have probably have been even more prefect if i went with a proper powder coat.
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    End of Day 1. I added 2 air fittings for my airbags, one on either side of my license plate, a license plate bracket backup camera relocation mod, and my OEM 7pin trailer harness connector. What a day.
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    Day 2 Started with Swing arm action, just follow the provided instructions here. I will say if you get the swing arm, cook table & jerry can mount, there is a lot of little details. Loktite needed on almost all the threads (theres what seems to be like 50 small #10 machine screws and nuts) greasing certain components properly, it's time consuming. I wanted this to turn out dialed and it took some time to get there. But happy to do it once and not have to go back in and fix shit.



    Also almost every hole on the swing arm and every accessory has been tapped and is threaded, which is sick, but that's another time consuming thing, trying not to strip every little screw and trying not to fuck shit up.
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    You see here i had to get rid of that sprayed area, and re-coat with primer. Even still the fit is fucking tiiiight once you install the pivot sleeves onto the swing arm. ( not pictured, i used the hydraulic cart to support the arm while i slid in the 3/4" bolt and it helped greatly, game changer.)
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    Jerry can mount is surprisingly heavy, used the hydraulic cart to get this on as well.
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    Finally got to the cook table on Day 3, love this thing so much, its so damn nice!
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    Propane bracket mentioned in the earlier post
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    I have seen such little content on this bumper and kit, I hope this plethora of pics reaches others in need of some visuals.

    Cheers
     
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    Man I am all over that propane mount. Perfect spot for it. Not to clog this thread up too much but which Eezi-Awn awning is that?
     
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