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Anyone with 700lb coil springs and aftermarket plate bumper

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Dr. Sleep, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. Apr 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM
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    Dr. Sleep

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    I'm looking for anyone who has switched from a 650lb coil spring 13" or 14" long to a 700lb coil spring 13" or 14" long with an adjustable coilover and heavy front end from aftermarket bumper/winch. Question: how did the ride compare between the 650 lb coil spring with more preload and the 700 lb coil spring with less preload?
     
  2. Apr 10, 2012 at 7:02 AM
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    Bump. . . . . anyone?
     
  3. Apr 10, 2012 at 7:19 AM
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    I can't compare because I got 700# right off the bat. I watched many others pre-load the piss out of their suspension with 650# springs which in turn made them wear out fast.

    IMO 700# springs should be run on all trucks with plate bumpers. I know some guys with 650# will disagree, but once their coils wear out maybe they will reconsider.

    I primarily run fire roads at medium speeds. Truck is lifted about 2" with plate front and rear bumpers with ATO skids.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Apr 10, 2012 at 7:24 AM
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    ^^ Thanks. If you've ever been in a guy's tacoma with 650 lb springs and a plate steel bumper, how did the ride compare with yours?
     
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    I was in the same model truck running the same model shocks with 650# springs and I couldn't notice a difference.

    The other owner had about 1-2" of thread showing.
     
  6. Apr 10, 2012 at 7:50 AM
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    thanks
     
  7. Apr 10, 2012 at 8:08 AM
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    Me too. Although they aren't installed yet I knew with plate bumper skid and winch I wanted a heavier duty spring so I wouldn't have to put as much preload on them. I agree with everything XXX has said.
     
  8. Apr 10, 2012 at 8:13 AM
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    Are you still running ungusseted spindles? :facepalm:

    More on-topic, I'm going to be swapping to stiffer and longer (giggity!) 700 lb coils on my shocks because I had to crank down on the 650 lbs ones so much that I had coil binding at full compression.

    They've been in my garage for months, and one of these years I'll find the time to install those things...
     
  9. Apr 10, 2012 at 8:16 AM
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    I always thought it was kiinda funny see'ing all the beefier U/LCA's, yet the spindly spindles are un touched..
     
  10. Apr 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM
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    Hmm some people run them for a reason. They would rather bend a spindle than rip apart something else
     
  11. Apr 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM
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    Thats a good point. But hitting a small rut can fold it, where as if you were to gusset it, it could survive the same impact, and still be the "Fussable link" if a larger hit was had.
     
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    yep... :eek:

    Worst yet is I had spare spindles and gussets for almost a year or longer in my parts room.

    Hell, my tire gate has been cracked for over a year :D

    Haven't bent one yet.

    this...and laziness....and the fact I needed new wheels to fit the gussets on without spacers.
     
  13. Apr 10, 2012 at 8:23 AM
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    :cool:
     
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    To me it was worth it. Cheap insurance to know I shouldn't have to worry about breaking one
     
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    If I drove like a girl my truck would of been totaled long ago. :D


    did you know 78% of all gas station fires are caused by women? :bananadead:
     
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    Valid points. I retract me comments.
     
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    OP, PM slimwood shady he just put an ARB bumper on and upgraded from the 650 Icon springs to the 700 Kings.
     
  18. Apr 10, 2012 at 8:36 AM
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    My gusseted spindles are still fuseable links. :eek:

    [​IMG]

    Boyd, you got a welder? If not, I've got a flux core MIG setup that'll get the job done, or you can drop a few bucks and we'll take your junk to Bob for the baller TIG treatment. :cool:
     
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    Icon uses a "special" length spring that's longer then what King uses. I would be weary of changing them around. I know that King 700# will work with Fox no problem.

    Yikes... thats AP's old gussets I think?

    No welder here. I wish I had one.

    Thanks for the offer.

    I have a few local friends I need to ask...they actually offered I'm just not good at asking for help. My bumper needs some help (couple cracked welds), my gussets need welding, and I have a shackle flip in the works that will need some welding.
     
  20. Apr 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM
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    Those are actually the TC gussets. Since everything else is reinforced, they're still the weak point on a hard enough hit. It was a pretty hard hit. :eek:

    The offer's there if you feel like taking a drive so there's no need to ask. When I'm finally rolling again I could even haul my welder and generator down your way if there's an offroad day planned and I decide to trailer my pile. :thumbsup:
     
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