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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by EL TACOROJO, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Feb 13, 2014 at 11:10 PM
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    koditten

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    Your kidding me! Why would they do that? Can you unscrew it to get some more tip recess?
     
  2. Feb 13, 2014 at 11:19 PM
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    nagorb Should be a dang perma mod

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    no, then it wont be sealed. You have to buy separate nozzles. But you only want a recessed tip for spray transfer, which he isn't doing, globular is flush, though I don't know it really matters.
     
  3. Feb 13, 2014 at 11:21 PM
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    Look at build!
    I find welding with the tip flush or damn near just under the nozzle and about 1/4" stickout made worlds difference than having it recessed
     
  4. Feb 13, 2014 at 11:28 PM
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    Just the oposite for me. Recesses keeps me from getting buildup on the tip.

    I can't remember the last time I changed the tip. Maybe 2 44lbs spools ago? I dunno?
     
  5. Feb 13, 2014 at 11:40 PM
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    nagorb Should be a dang perma mod

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    Only reason I know I just had to buy a new nozzle fucker was arching off he workpiece.
     
  6. Feb 13, 2014 at 11:55 PM
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    Look at build!
    Idk, ive never replaced the tip on mine... been thru over 100# of wire myself
     
  7. Feb 14, 2014 at 6:48 AM
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    Thanks for the info. Sadly I am in the middle of nowhere, so scrap 3/16 steel just is not around. All the scrapyards are closed on the weekends, and by the time I get off work I can't get to them on time during the week. Sad, but true. Plus I think the bad welds add character! Since they are on the inside and you can't see them! Hahaha. I will get there. So far only a few spots are welded.

    I got ya on my travel being inconsistent. Non steady hands, and to be honest a bit of apprehension in my abilities are causing me to make some errors. I will see about dialing up the heat some. I am assuming dialing up the heat will give me better penetration, and less of a peak in the metal weld itself. at least that makes sense to me anyway.

    My tip is recessed some into the cup. (I am thinking about 1/4 inch?) But the cup is a screw on, so I can't adjust it any. I am trying both push and pull to see which ones I am most comfortable with, and that I can get the best weld out of. I know that each method has it's own result.

    Thanks for the advice everyone!
     
  8. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:00 AM
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    What is your gas set at? Turn your heat up and your wire down just a bit. I rarely look at the numbers when dialing a machine it. It's all about how the arc looks and how it sounds. I used to tune my old bosses welder in without looking while he was welding and I was holding shit in place.

    Your Tig is beautiful.

    [​IMG]

    Just one of my stainless passes I laid a while back. Helium and 140 dollar 14lb grade stainless single shield 0.30.

    This is what I ended up building, full stainless outdoor shower. Wish I took pics of it installed. Only lasted three days on the guys balcony before the HOA of the complex said tear it out.

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  9. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:13 AM
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    The TIG weld took 10 minutes for prep, fit up, welding, and checking to make sure it it still level. Then goes to inspection, x ray, dye pen, hydro, PMI, & hardness.
    The mig weld was on a "hobby" project. It takes no longer make a good quality, attractive weld than it does to slap some shit on there.
     
  10. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:15 AM
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    THIS^
     
  11. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:21 AM
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    As I recall, the gas is at 16. Thanks for the input.
     
  12. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:48 AM
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    Since we are talking bumpers (I guess this really applies to most anything though), would you always want to make a pass on both sides if possible? For example on a bumper where the two pieces are at a 45* angle to each other, visually you would want the outside face welded, but would you want to run a bead on the inside surface as well? Lets use 10 ga for this example if it matters.
     
  13. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:49 AM
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    ok. Gas is actually at 17. Here is my recent pass in the middle. Settings are now:
    Speed: 313
    Voltage: 19.0
    Inductance: 6.5

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    It looks like I am getting a better pool, and better penetration. Still sucks not having a steady hand. Plus it is difficult to always see the butt joint clearly, so sometimes I push it a little off center. I am guessing my helmet screen may need some adjustment. It is an autodarkening with a dial on the side.
     
  14. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:49 AM
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    With 10ga, I wouldn. Depends if you full pen it or not. If you have full penetration I would not do both sides.
     
  15. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:52 AM
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    I want to know how fools are laying mig welds like this. I have yet to find a video of this but knew one guy at the shop I used to work at that laid single shield like this. He was gone two days after that so I never got to ask him what he did to produce this kind of weld. I assume it is all in how you manipulate the puddle.

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  16. Feb 14, 2014 at 7:57 AM
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    Thanks, would you want to do the back side instead of the front ever, or just depends? I plan to do some trials on scrap first, just wondering if there was a general accepted practice.
     
  17. Feb 14, 2014 at 8:09 AM
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    Did the picture not link? It shows on my end:confused:
    I lay a decent weld 90% of the time so I would just do the front. Especially if it is fillets on a butt joint. Like what's his nuts said though, you could lay some 1 on 12's or 2 on 12's if you wanted to beef it up even more.
     
  18. Feb 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM
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    that's what we do.

    Is the inside necessary? probably not, but it's better safe than sorry IMO! I run stitches about 2" long with a 3-4" space between beads, and all corners always get a bead on both sides
     
  19. Feb 14, 2014 at 8:19 AM
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    In that case then my bumper will be a BEAST since I have been full welding on the inside, and will obviously full weld the outside. lmao. It's getting better. Only thing I see as any kind of error that will be a LITTLE tough to correct is the lower plate on the "wing". I think I had it positioned wrong by a small amount because when I look at bolting the bracket into place, it does not look like it will be parallel to the truck frame 100%. I am guessing maybe 2 degrees or so off? I will see if I can get a picture.
     

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