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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by EL TACOROJO, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Oct 31, 2014 at 6:14 PM
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    Yes if your outside flux is what you want but his picture shows his truck in a garage so mig it is thanks have a good night :p
     
  2. Oct 31, 2014 at 6:18 PM
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    Oh yeah I had a dune buggy that some hack job did work on after all said and done I billed the customer over 3000 for our work. I'll try and find some pictures but it was the worst welding I have ever seen in my life!!
     
  3. Oct 31, 2014 at 6:21 PM
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    There are some bad welders around here, mainly because they learned on the farm where sticking 2 pieces of steel back together was the only goal. I'm studying to get my cwi cert so I can legitimately tell people their welds suck.
     
  4. Oct 31, 2014 at 6:44 PM
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    I know.. Then I feel like crap because I can't lay pretty beads.. Sliders were installed without gussets - I'm welding them in. Frame plates are all uneven, and they're painted..
     
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    Priceless......
     
  6. Oct 31, 2014 at 6:52 PM
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    Don't start with a cheap welder you will regret it! Get a good 220v gas welder. Save a little longer.
     
  7. Oct 31, 2014 at 7:02 PM
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    Yall do realize flux-core and mig use the same ER70 wire, right? The only difference is the shielding.

    When the weld is buffed with a wire wheel to remove the flux, there is no difference between the two.
     
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    Okay :deadhorse:
     
  9. Oct 31, 2014 at 7:20 PM
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    Dood.. Just blow on ur MIG while you're welding.

    No need for shield gas!
     
  10. Oct 31, 2014 at 7:31 PM
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    Do yall hate everything with flux, or just flux-core?
     
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    Not at all flux has its place for sure. Just not really in this line of work. Have ran dual shield from time to time on some jobs just not on truck parts.
     
  12. Nov 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM
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    I was visiting in Florida and noticed that many places do much of their fab work outside and flux core was used quite often. Here, I'm not gonna be doing much outside welding, so cover gas is the only way to go.

    Don't take our word for what type of welding you want to do, just do it. The difference between flux core and cover shield gas welding is really amazing.

    I know it would take very special situations for me to ever go back to flux core welding.

    As for learning to weld, I'm all for organized training to obtain certifications, but I don't believe a person needs to go to welding school to be a proficient welder.

    The availability of the internet has made learning to weld on your own amazingly easy. I was self taught, but it took a lot of time actually talking to actual welders. Now, we can post pics of our welds and have feed back almost instantly.

    KO
     
  13. Nov 1, 2014 at 9:55 AM
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    Videos help much, already saw tons of them and feel ready to weld lol. So flux is better for outdoors and MIG for indoors? I think its because MIG gas can be blown away because of the wind? This is what I have understood

    -MIG indoors
    -Flux outdoors
    -MIG is cleaner
    -MIG and Flux have the same strength
    -MIG is ideal for truck welding
    -MIG dosent requier grinding
    -MIG FTW
     
  14. Nov 1, 2014 at 10:05 AM
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    Pretty much also watching videos is good but torch time is best. Don't get your set up and just start burning on your truck you will destroy it. Take your time and practice on a bunch of scrap before ever touching your truck with the torch. And I Mean a lot not just a few beads you should have weeks if not months of torch time before you try welding on your truck. Different thicknesses ,angles ,speeds & heat there is a lot that go's into a weld so practice a lot!!
     
  15. Nov 1, 2014 at 10:07 AM
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    ^^^

    Especially before you wreck that dom tube. There's no point in dom if the welds aren't good.
     
  16. Nov 1, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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    Ill start doing some weld art haha, then a welding table with wheels and shit, then a welder cart and then some more welding art. Just broke up with the gf so Ill have more time for my truck <3

    Ill do truck parts nothing industrial :)
     
  17. Nov 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM
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    I think that pretty much sums it up.

    However, the comment that mig does not require grinding, not sure what you meant about that?

    Are you talking about the base metal and grinding rust or dirt off before welding?

    Or do you mean cleaning the weld afterwards?
     
  18. Nov 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM
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    Obviously you have to clean the metal before welding or grind of the paint, I mean clean the welds afterwards.
     
  19. Nov 1, 2014 at 1:58 PM
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    Because it looks horrible, all those bubbles look like boogers or peanuts lol

    [​IMG]

    Clean MIG

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  20. Nov 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM
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    That is a bad representation of mig and flux the flux is nasty i can do better then that welding with my feet!! And the mig picture is stacked tacks also not a good weld. Mostly due to not knowing how to weld thin wall sure it will hold but not ideal for mig welding unless its sheet metal.
     
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