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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by EL TACOROJO, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Jul 31, 2020 at 5:34 PM
    koditten

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    I've never had ant trouble welding thru mill scale.
     
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    Yea, I read mill scale but my brain registered the oily junk that the steel is coated with.
     
  3. Jul 31, 2020 at 5:34 PM
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  4. Jul 31, 2020 at 5:38 PM
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    I’m going to buy the one I linked and try it, for science. I know it’s a good practice to clean up mill scale and it does make for a cleaner start so I should get in the habit.
     
  5. Jul 31, 2020 at 5:38 PM
    EatSleepTacos

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    Also, that beer is delicious. Good choice.
     
  6. Jul 31, 2020 at 5:55 PM
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    @Shmellmopwho you and I think someone else nailed it, my torch wasn't properly seated into the machine. It wasn't for lack of trying though, turns out my wire was starting to bind which I think was preventing it from fully seating. It finally got so bound up the wire stopped feeding in the middle of a weld. I got it all untangled, pulled out the wire and re-fed it. As soon as I hit the trigger I could hear the "whoosh!" at the trigger (before it was just at the machine). Wow, what a difference, smooth as butter! (well, at least compared to what I HAD been laying down) Not sure why the wire got bound up in the first place, but I had noticed that even though the gaskets were in, you could see some of the metal. Now the torch is all the way in and no metal is showing.

    Here's the rat's nest I pulled out:

    And here are the first beads I made after re-feeding the wire. The smiley face and two lines next to it were done after re-feeding the wire. The other lines were the last ones made right before it shit itself. I put all the settings back to what is recommended on the chart and no issues. Also pushed the weld and tried to keep my tip closer to the surface.
     
  7. Jul 31, 2020 at 5:59 PM
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    I've been resting the wrist of my welding hand on my non-welding hand. I tried putting my non-welding hand on the torch (wearing gloves of course) and I feel I have more control, so I may switch to that.
     
  8. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:01 PM
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    I hadn't even thought about that, but I suppose there is as I haven't cleaned it up. I'll do that when I flip it to the B track
     
  9. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:03 PM
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    Did some tests for science cause I’ve been drinking and I like melting metal.

    so for @Mojo Jojo this is how far I hold the gun off the weld:

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    Next I tried no gas at all and with gas for comparison:

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    No gas on the left, gas on the right.

    And lastly cause @koditten and @EatSleepTacos says you can weld right through mill scale....

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    Damn why have I been cleaning mill scale all this time?! :rofl:

    EDIT: Full disclaimer I’m a noob who only
    Does this for fun out of necessity.
     
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  10. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:03 PM
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    Now we’re talking, looks muuuuch smoother. Good job mark.


    just play around and find what’s comfortable for you. Guarantee we all do it a bit differently in here. The biggest thing is having some point of contact with something for your welding hand. I can’t just have my welding hand in mid air and lay anything halfway decent. I have to have it braced up against something for stability.

    Same with pushing vs pulling. I prefer pulling the puddle. I feel I have more control this way.
     
  11. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:05 PM
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    I weld through paint sometimes too :anonymous:
     
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    Thanks everyone for your patience with this noob and all the helpful tips. It makes all the difference having people virtually looking over my shoulder troubleshooting and giving advice. I'm relieved to have the gas setup properly and to now focus on technique!
     
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    Awesome man!! I’m glad that worked. Yay for gluing metal together!
     
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  14. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:20 PM
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    In the first picture, it looks like the tip is touching the material. I had started out doing that but wasn't sure if that was OK and started moving it away. It's definitely more comfortable for me if they're touching.

    Interesting the gas vs no gas welds. The no gas looks like what I had been laying down.
     
  15. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:22 PM
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    No problem man, we all were new once.

    @EatSleepTacos since we were just talking cursive e’s going down I decided to give it a quick go.

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    Not my best but I can def work with that look vs the concave look I usually get going down.
     
  16. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:23 PM
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    You're learning all sorts of shit tonight!
     
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    I'm proof you're never too old to learn, that's what keeps life interesting!
     
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    Those coupons were zinc coated? If so that’s your problem. Even after grinding the zinc off the metal is still really impure. Get yourself some clean, fresh steel and try again
     
  20. Jul 31, 2020 at 9:33 PM
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