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Apogee 3rd Gen Tacoma Rear Bumper Dual Swing Thread

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Apogee Offroad, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. May 14, 2021 at 10:42 AM
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    Hey everyone! Just wanted to check back in and show some changes to our rear bumper to accommodate a more rigid dual swing!

    We've reworked the hitch receiver area for more strength (now that we know people like towing 8500 lbs trailers with their Tacoma) :boom: and added more internal gusseting to the outer ends of the bumper for less flex! Now this does add some weight, but we want to make sure that we're giving you guys the best product we can.

    Still working on more external gussets not pictured here.

    We will be including the gussets for anyone that currently has our bumper and wants to add swing outs with the kit! They will have to be welded for optimal strength, but besides that you'll be good to go!

    The major change to the swing outs is that now they are mirrored! This is a huge step which means you can mount anything you want, in any orientation you want! You want the tire on the driver side for more over shoulder view? Boom! You want it on the passenger side for more Broverlander status? BOOM! Its all possible. You want two drop down tables to master your inner camp cook status? DUH! You want that pizza oven life on the rim of the grand canyon? Be our guest. They both clear the tailgate when open BTW! We will also be offering a backup camera kit as well!

    In addition, the spindles have changed to be one solid spindle instead of two extended heim joints. This ensures more rigidity and easier installation.

    Thanks for your patience guys, I know its been killing all of us with anticipation. Now if COVID could bugger off, that would be greaat.

    I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts.



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  2. May 14, 2021 at 3:04 PM
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    Holy smokes Batman! Well done! :cheers::bananadance: Can't wait, but seriously, I can. Well worth it from the looks of it. Thanks for posting your progress report!

    Can you tell us any more about the rear backup camera? I have the stock backup camera, I am handy with wiring. Do I need to source an extension kit or will that still be included?

    What is the current weight estimate with the changes?
     
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  3. May 14, 2021 at 3:23 PM
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    Not sure on the wiring yet, but which weight are you wondering about? Total? Bumper? Swing Outs?
     
  4. May 14, 2021 at 3:23 PM
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    We will be providing the camera, bracket, and instructions.
     
  5. May 14, 2021 at 3:24 PM
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    Total bumper weight with both swing arms.
     
  6. May 14, 2021 at 3:27 PM
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    I already have the OEM camera. I guess that is why I was wondering if there will be an extension kit for the OEM camera, versus including the entire (new) camera kit? There are a few extension kits out there that will aid in relocating the OEM camera. Wondering if I need to source one of those extension kits?
     
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  7. May 14, 2021 at 3:40 PM
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    Currently we are not planning on reusing the OEM camera. It will be an additional camera and the necessary wiring and connectors. The goal is to have a simple and functional plug and play kit. This is still subject to change once we get our testing underway.
     
  8. May 14, 2021 at 3:41 PM
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    We won't be releasing weights until after we have completed testing on the prototypes.
     
  9. May 14, 2021 at 4:31 PM
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    I wonder, is there a way to lock the swing arms in their 'open' position? The plan is to sleep in the camper shell and I wouldn't want to make it too easy for the group to lock me in :help:
     
  11. May 15, 2021 at 7:07 AM
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    @Apogee Offroad well done!!! Thank you for listening to your customers about the modular arms with a moveable spare tire mount. I think you're learning by now that us Tacoma folks love options :D I can't wait to purchase one of these bumpers!!

    With the spindle redesign, are the arms still as easy to install or remove on a regular basis, or is that something I just need to give up on?
     
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  12. May 15, 2021 at 7:27 AM
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    :rofl:
    The current design will still be relatively easy to remove if needed.

    The current design will allow items to be moved side to side but some accessory mounts will be tailored for certain positions.

    There are hundreds of combinations that people want (rotopax, Jerry can, spare tire, max trax, propane tank, bike rack, shower, pizza oven, dishwasher, jacuzzi:rofl:). We can’t provide a solution for every combo but the gates have multiple mounting points so the diy crowd can bolt up anything their heart desires.

    We will have a max weight for the gates as we have had some inquiries as to how much stuff can be bolted on to it.
     
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    are those light cutouts going to be pointed out the the side or will they be aimed directly to the rear? do you have some mounting system in mind to get those reverse lights pointed directly back?
     
  14. May 15, 2021 at 4:02 PM
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    the lights on the bumper point out and down by a few degrees. With a flood style light it works out to be a nice direction.
     
  15. May 16, 2021 at 9:15 PM
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    yeah... would like to see how that looks on the backup cam at night. i guess meso's hitchpod could be an option for a direct-rear facing light, but i dont see any other mounting options.

    which flood light have you sized the cutouts for?
     
  16. May 17, 2021 at 3:52 AM
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    I skimmed the first couple pages and this page but didn't see anything about estimated weight of this bumper + swingouts. Any numbers from the design software?
     
  17. May 17, 2021 at 6:05 AM
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    The rear bumper is designed to fit the Baja Designs S2 flush mounts. We’ve not had any issues or complaints with the OEM backup camera and the Baja designs lights.
     
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  18. May 17, 2021 at 6:10 AM
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    No weights posted yet. We will release that info once we’ve finished testing the prototype.
     
  19. May 17, 2021 at 6:15 AM
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    there won’t be any provisions to lock the gates other than the pull pin ship will hold them in the open position.
     
  20. May 17, 2021 at 11:39 AM
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    ok cool, thank you!
     

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