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Applying Fluid Film

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Mallard386, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. Aug 29, 2019 at 2:27 PM
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    Seagull233

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    That garden hose is frozen harder than a whore's heart from about November to March. We go for weeks when the daytime temp seldom goes above freezing. Those are the days that the lines are out into the streets at every car wash!!
     
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  2. Aug 29, 2019 at 4:50 PM
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    Is it required by law to wash you car in winter in New York?
     
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  3. Aug 29, 2019 at 5:49 PM
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    black woolWax, green IFC, borlaCB, custom Line-X PC drums, skid, nuts, hooks, 1/4 silver frame...
    thank you!
    someone understands the realness of the cold climate
    you leave that garden hose attached to the outside faucet when them temps get to well below zero you be asking for a whole another mess with a busted water pipe :bananadead:
     
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  4. Aug 29, 2019 at 6:02 PM
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    are your rockers chip guarded? that is just what i call it
     
  5. Aug 29, 2019 at 6:07 PM
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    Well, no, but in the matter of a few snowy days of driving, vehicles all become the same color, a crusty white, gray/brown, comprised of salt, mud, and road grime. So, you have to wash whenever you can.

    Example:

    dirty-car-in-winter.jpg
     
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  6. Aug 29, 2019 at 6:10 PM
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    I believe that they have a "plastic" protective layer on top. Mine get protected by my running boards, as well.
     
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  7. Aug 29, 2019 at 6:50 PM
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    what did or do you do to rustproof the running boards? ... obviously not the FF
    I cannot say I have ever seen an older 10+ years of running boards or nerf bars that weren't crusty
     
  8. Aug 29, 2019 at 6:56 PM
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    These were originally polished aluminum, but they have been painted flat black for their life. New coat about once a year.
     
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  9. Aug 29, 2019 at 7:05 PM
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    black woolWax, green IFC, borlaCB, custom Line-X PC drums, skid, nuts, hooks, 1/4 silver frame...
    good visibility through all windows is a +positive+ for the wash
    although now that I hear these places use recycled water I am hesitant to use anything except for the spot free rinse!
     
  10. Aug 29, 2019 at 7:34 PM
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    anybody use this stuff?

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    DETAILS
    Internal Frame Coating destroys rust hiding inside the chassis, so it doesn’t rust its way through

    Stop Hidden Rust with Eastwood

    You spend time and money restoring a chassis, and almost certainly have applied a car undercoating to stop water and moisture from rusting the underside. But what about all that rust inside the frame? Use our Internal Frame Coating to make your chassis rust-free throughout! This special aerosol spray destroys rust hiding inside the chassis so it doesn't rust its way through and destroy the frame from the inside out. Old frames on vintage or muscle cars are hard to come by, and Eastwood Internal Frame Coating is an affordable way to preserve a chassis so you don't need to search out or fabricate a new one. This spray is available in a black or green finish to stop this rust during auto frame restoration before it can reveal itself to the world.

    How Frame Coating Works

    Each can of Internal Frame Coating comes with a special 24-inch tube that reaches inside the tubular steel bars and frame parts. This tube has a conical nozzle with multiple sprays, which reach outward to completely cover the innards of the metal. Tough phenolic resins in this coating then penetrate and encapsulate the rust on the internal surface, preventing it from spreading. Zinc phosphate seals it to prevent future corrosion. This special coating cures within 24 hours, leaving you a frame that's strong inside and out even in the subframe and cavities.

    Expert Tech Service

    Wondering how to spray paint inside a tube? Not sure how much you'll need for a project? The Eastwood team is here to help. We offer free product demonstration videos, how-to-articles, over-the-phone advice and more so you can do the job right. Give us a call, send an email or visit the Eastwood Garage online 24/7. Internal Frame Coating is one of several great products we offer for restoring your chassis so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor on the open road.

    Features:

    • Tough phenolic resin penetrates and encapsulates the rust on the internal surface.
    • Zinc phosphate seals it to prevent future corrosion.
    • 24" long tube with conical nozzle reaches in to spray coating in a radial pattern for complete coverage.
    • Aerosol covers 10 sq. ft.
    • Fully cures in 24 hours.
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    Internal Frame Coating destroys rust hiding inside the chassis, so it doesn't rust its way through. You spend time and money restoring a chassis, but what about all that rust inside the frame? Apply our Internal Frame Coating to make your chassis rust free throughout! Tough phenolic resins penetrate, convert and encapsulates the rust on the internal surface. Zinc phosphate seals it to prevent future corrosion.
     
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  11. Aug 29, 2019 at 8:48 PM
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  12. Aug 29, 2019 at 8:57 PM
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  13. Aug 29, 2019 at 9:11 PM
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    Is FluidFilm safe on plastics.
    Is it safe to spray over wiring harnesses etc?
    Or should you avoid any wiring running along the frame?
     
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  14. Aug 29, 2019 at 9:14 PM
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    that POR15 did not yield very good results!
     
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  15. Aug 30, 2019 at 4:27 AM
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    I had bad luck with POR-15 when I used it on my rocker panels and door bottoms on my '96 Thunderbird. It seemed to work fine for the first month or two, then the rust came back with a vengeance. I applied it correctly in a clean and dry environment, and prepped the surfaces correctly as well.
    I thought it was something I had done wrong, so I used it on my '94 Ranger and had the same results - the rust came right back, even when applied to surface rust.

    It was a let-down considering I spent about $40 for just a quart of it. Also, the paint had separated inside the can while it sat on the shelf, so there was this liquid solution with a big, gooey mass sitting at the bottom of the can. I had to stir it using a high-speed drill and a spade wood bit (lol) for like ten minutes just to blend it back into a correctly mixed coating.

    I would rather use FF twice a year and have peace-of-mind from that. :cookiemonster:

    It should be fine on plastics, and might even be beneficial for wiring harnesses to act as a water-displacement agent. Consider it like a coat of wax, which is usually harmless and has no caustic or acidic properties to it.
     
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  16. Aug 30, 2019 at 4:43 AM
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    i have not yet porked on the POR-15 although it has been suggested to use on more than one occasion
    your comments will dissuade me from going that route, from that one year showdown challenge video it seems its just as 'thin' as the Toyota defective paint is!
     
  17. Aug 30, 2019 at 5:16 AM
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    Everything I've read has pushed me away from POR-15 people have too varied results for my liking. Everyone seems to like fluid film besides the fact that people complain that it washes off to easy.
     
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  18. Aug 30, 2019 at 5:29 AM
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    the FF is not a 'paint' or permanent or semi-permanent sealer but a combo of both is probably a good route?
    do you have one of those replacement frames?
    FF is probably not a good thing to have on if you want to put better quality paint on
     
  19. Aug 30, 2019 at 5:35 AM
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    I was just going to fluid film it once in the spring after winter and once in the fall to make sure its on well. No I don't my frame is original. I still have a lot of my gunk from the recall on it, which I'll probably wash it off the best I can then use fluid film
     
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  20. Aug 30, 2019 at 6:01 AM
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    Wow I went through all of this several years ago. POR 15 never worked for me. Not that I used it on my Taco frame, but every other time.... I painted all my frame welds with Rust Bullet. Sprayed the inside with that Eastwood frame coating and found it to be pretty good. Been using FF for 3-4 years now. 04 Taco relocated from South Carolina to MA. FF works good if you use it every fall after pressure washing the under body..... What I have not seen in the posts above is the real value using FF provides when you need to do underbody service and take stuff apart. It comes apart WAY easier when you use FF regularly. This alone is a great value in using it.
     
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