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ARB bumper suspension sag with my lift?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by TacoMan709, Mar 31, 2010.

  1. Mar 31, 2010 at 6:55 AM
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    TacoMan709

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    Hi guys,

    I've been searching around for an answer to my question and haven't turned up with anything yet, so I figured I'd shoot it fresh in a new thread. And thoughts would be greatly appreciated :).

    I have an '03 4x4 Access Cab with a 2.5" lift. The lift includes a 2.5" coil spacer up front (on my stock springs) and a 1.5" add-a-leaf in the rear.

    My question is: if I put an ARB front bumper on, will it be too heavy for my stock front springs? Are there any issues that anyone can forsee with this setup?

    Also, should I get stiffer front coils, and if I do, will that cause a slight "bro-lean"?

    I'm a noob...apologies for any frig-ups here...

    Cheers.
     
  2. Mar 31, 2010 at 7:03 AM
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    the arb will definately make the front sag a bit. ..you won't know how much until you try it.

    i would suggest gettting adjustable coilovers with a 650 to 700# spring. that way you can compensate for the sag.
     
  3. Mar 31, 2010 at 7:39 AM
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    Do you have TRD progressive rated springs or non TRD?
     
  4. Mar 31, 2010 at 7:42 AM
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    And Space Wrangler, do you think I should upgrade to the coilover setup before putting the bumper on?
     
  5. Mar 31, 2010 at 7:44 AM
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    I would put the bumper on and then see how much of a sag it is. Then decide if you wanna get coilovers or not.
     
  6. Mar 31, 2010 at 7:51 AM
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    Right on, thanks for the advice. I was thinking the same, but I don't want to get the bumper on there, have a ton of sag, and then have to wait to get my coilovers.

    I suppose swapping the old bumper back on until I get my coilovers is always an option...plus, it gives me an excuse to spend the whole day drinking beers in the garage!
     
  7. Mar 31, 2010 at 8:02 AM
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    if you have the bumper, you don't have to install it to see how much it will drop you. just take some measurements, then put some blankets on your hood and set the bumper on it. an easier way would be to wratchet strap it to the front so it hangs off the ground. then measure, this will give you a rough idea of what you are dealing with. it will be less, because your factory bumper will be on there.
     
  8. Mar 31, 2010 at 11:33 AM
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    Do you plan to put a winch in that bumper too? You can probably count on doubling the added weight if you do.

    I had a TJM bumper (very similar to the ARB) on my 98 non-TRD with a similar spacer setup to yours with no winch. The TJM did not cause the front to lower very much at all. At most, I lost about a half inch in height.
     
  9. Mar 31, 2010 at 1:25 PM
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    when i first put my ARB on i had shitty rancho shocks, non-trd coils, and a top plate spacer...i had no sag whatsoever
     
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    I put mine on with billy's at 2.5 on stock springs and i lost alittle lift. I ended up putting 886 coils on because I was adding a winch and skids.

    The guy I bought it from had a stock truck and said he had no issues:rolleyes:
     
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    the spacers must help. one of my friends had his ARB put on his 04 a couple weeks before he got his lift and it sagged like crazy
     
  12. Mar 31, 2010 at 6:49 PM
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    You shouldn't get much sag with just the ARB, as it is relatively light (I could pick up mine alone when I was installing it). If you add a winch though, then you will see sag.
     
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    agreed

    the 1st gen ARB is only like 80lbs or so...i was able to install mine by myself
     
  14. Apr 1, 2010 at 5:09 AM
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    the sag isn't going to be noticeable immediately. ..well, not much anyway. what you will notice is that it will get worse over time. the repeated cycling of the springs with the added weight will exacerbate the sagging.

    i say put whatever bumper you want on the truck and wheel it. ..when the front starts to sag more than you like, buy some adjustable coilovers. ..problem solved.
     
  15. Apr 18, 2010 at 12:43 AM
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    I put an ARB front bumper on my truck bout a month ago. To account for the weight and sag I put on 2 inch spacers. No sag to really speak of now.
     
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