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ARB Bumper With Stock Suspension?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Rooty, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. Dec 11, 2009 at 3:37 AM
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    Rooty

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    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Hey I've got a new ARB bumper waiting for me when I get home from my work tour. I've been reading quite a bit on suspension trying to wrap my head around it all (I'm new to this). I've been digging for a few days now and haven't really found a good solution to my situation.

    I have a 2010 SR5 access cab 4x4 so I'm pretty sure I have the bare bones stock suspension (I'm not at home so I can't check for sure). I'll probably be putting on a OME 3 in lift sometime next year but in the meantime I don't want the bumper causing any problems with my shocks. I see that most people are suggesting using 886 coils to counter the weight of this bumper. However most of these people seem to be lifted already. Is it possible to put 886's on stock shocks or should I? I won't be putting a winch on the bumper and I've read that the thing only weighs in at 80 pounds. Is that enough to justify stiffer springs? (I'm not certain what the stock springs rate is) Toytec only suggests the 886's for 200+ pounds of weight on the front so I don't want to have to deal with a stiffer ride unless I have to. I'm also concerned that if I can put 886's on the stock shocks it will rob them of all their down travel and make the front of the truck higher than the back since I'm not doing an AAL or anything yet.

    Can anyone please give me a suggestion on what my options are? Do you think I could get away with stock shocks and springs until I get around to a lift, or is there a cheaper option I could get away with in the meantime? One thing I've considered is seeing how much the sag is after I install the bumper and getting some cheap non OME springs to counter it but I don't know how I would gauge spring rate to make up the difference.

    Thanks for any help anyone can give. I'm sorry if I've missed something obvious in my searching but as I said this is all fresh info for me so I appreciate you bearing with a noobie
     
  2. Dec 11, 2009 at 3:40 AM
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    JimBeam

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    while my truck may be a 2002...i initially put my ARB (no winch) on a stock suspension setup...had zero issues...no noticeable increase in nose dive while braking...no sagging...nothing of the sort

    i realize the suspension has changed a bit since then...but...the weight of the bumper itself is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be
     
  3. Dec 11, 2009 at 4:20 AM
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    Well that's encouraging, thanks Tiger.

    Do you think the 80 pound estimate is a close one?
     
  4. Jan 19, 2010 at 6:28 AM
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    Did you install the ARB? I have been thinking of one for the 2009 DBL cab with the sport suspension under it. I don't want to change the suspension right now but would like the bumper.

    Gary k8IZ
     
  5. Jan 19, 2010 at 7:14 AM
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    you cannot add OME coils on stock shocks. It wont work. So if you do plan to get new coils, plan on getting the shocks to go with them. Give whoever you got the bumper from a call and see how much it actually weighs to know for sure.
     
  6. Jan 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM
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    Yup got it installed. It really isn't that heavy without the winch. I didn't notice any (maybe just a tiny bit) of a drop in the front after the install. Handles fine too, no sway in the corners or diving during breaking. I'd recommend getting the bumper now if you want it, I'm glad I did.
     
  7. Jan 22, 2010 at 9:38 PM
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    Good to know. I'm planning on doing the same thing (ARB bumper with stock suspension) as soon as I get my Tacoma. Keep us posted on how it rides and handles long term.
     
  8. Jan 23, 2010 at 9:28 AM
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    Thanks Rooty and others, that information is good to know.

    If I were to change the front end suspension I'd probably buy the entire kit not make something work with stock stuff.

    Now to get the ARB ordered it looks to be stronger than the All-Pro bumper and thats what I want. No winch for right now. I have heard the ARB is back ordered for 4 to 6 weeks from ARB, they are local to me. Still have to purchase through a dealer but that can accomodate a will call pick-up which saves some shipping.
     
  9. Jan 28, 2010 at 5:11 PM
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    I e mailed ARB and they said the bumper weighs 150lbs without a winch
     
  10. Jan 28, 2010 at 6:29 PM
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    They are the only bumpers that have been tested to be airbag compliant too. (required in Australia where they are made) I only had to wait about a week through trdparts4u they were the cheapest too at around 1200 bucks shipped. I tried to source one locally as I like to keep my business at home when I can but they were coming in at about 500 bucks more...I couldn't justify that.

    Thats what I should have done lol. Its hard to tell when they are all in separate pieces. At any rate, I don't think the 886's are necessary unless you are running a winch. I may be proved wrong though if my shocks blow out in 1000 miles. For now though everything is riding titties.
     
  11. Jan 28, 2010 at 6:42 PM
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    how heavy is your bumper???? go sit on your hood and see what happens..probably not much:)
     
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    the ARB (IMO) is far stronger than the All-pro

    i have YET to see a thread on any forum about the all-pro standing up to a direct hit with a deer at 60mph

    ive seen threads concerning this with both ARB and Shrockworks
     
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