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ARB LED Fog lights

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by yotatotaco77, Mar 4, 2019.

  1. Mar 4, 2019 at 2:39 AM
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    yotatotaco77

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    I've got mine hooked up. They seem to be a little brighter than the stock fog lights were. I don't know what the rating on either light, just my seat of the pants rating.
     
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    Pics ?
     
  4. Mar 4, 2019 at 1:35 PM
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    I can get some after I finish my current work assignment. I don't have any before photos to compare with so it might not be of much help.
     
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    Glad I just did bulbs on mine instead of buying new ones, these will def by my next upgrade when mine burn out again. Love the little halo
     
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    Note that the ARB halogen lights are actually driving lights, not fog lights. The ARB documentation on this is really confusing as they call them Fog/driving lights. They are a high beam pattern. Those replacements lights are a real fog pattern. So the pattern will change, but fog seems far more ideal than driving, as your headlights will easily be able to over power the small lights driving pattern but cannot match the fog pattern function.
     
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  7. Jan 17, 2020 at 9:28 PM
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    ARB came out with their own LED fogs sometime in 2019, has anyone popped these in yet? They seem to be just a few bucks more than the standards at $110.20

    https://arbusa.com/led-fog-light/

    They look like an improvement over the old style but are still so new that I haven't seenany reviews for them yet.
     
  8. Jan 17, 2020 at 9:51 PM
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    Hmm, hadn't seen those. Those look to be actual fog lights, unlike their halogens which were driving lights for the fog position. Output specs look really low though compared to the competition.
     
  9. Jan 17, 2020 at 10:07 PM
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    So you make a good point about them being driving lights and to me it makes sense for these fogs to be a lower output as I was always taught the real purpose of fogs is to 1 let other drivers know where you are and 2 not blind yourself on the light reflection.

    More than anything I'm interested to see what kind of pattern they push out, I loved the factory fogs on the stock bumper for letting me see what was directly in front of me and a little bit of the ditch. I haven't installed my ARB yet and don't know how much the halogens actually light up but for a couple bucks difference I think I'll probably go for the LEDs.

    Hoping the experience of TW has got some good pics.
     
  10. Jan 17, 2020 at 10:29 PM
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    Their 6000k color will be highly reflective off of the fog and perform poorly in bad weather. And 240 lumens?! That is one of the lowest on the market. Diode Dynamics entry level yellow sport fogs start at 1930 raw lumens and 1300 actual lumens, while being a far better selective yellow for poor weather performance. A 240 lumen 6000k LED fog doesn't seem like a very effective lighting choice compared to other options on the market.
     
  11. Jan 18, 2020 at 5:34 AM
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    You are mostly correct on the true purpose of "fog" pattern lighting. The wide, flat beam pattern minimizes light getting reflected back into the driver's eyes and at the same time puts the maximum amount of light down low and close to the ground in front of the vehicle where you can use it. (Attempting to "penetrate" fog with a long distance beam is pretty much pointless.)

    As @crashnburn80 stated, color temperature is also critical in fog and snow. White / blue light tends to reflect back more than amber / selective yellow light. Couple a wide, flat beam pattern with amber / selective yellow and you get the best of both worlds.

    As for letting other drivers know where you are, I guess that could be a possibility.
     

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