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Archery Talk

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by -TRDMAN-, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. Dec 20, 2018 at 7:47 AM
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    Glad you filled your tags. If I could hunt anything in the US besides whitetails, it would be moose. I saw 1 in Montana once while visiting a friend. Huge!
     
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  2. Dec 20, 2018 at 7:49 AM
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    we see quite a few moose. They usually get in the way when we are hunting deer or elk...
     
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  4. Dec 20, 2018 at 10:46 AM
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    Season is out until Dec. 26, then flintlock and late archery come in. Hopefully we can get a story or two. I have one doe tag left and my son has two. Really really want to tag one with the flintlock.
     
  5. Dec 20, 2018 at 2:17 PM
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    "Gimp"

    He first showed up on my trial cameras in the summer and continued to make an appearance every card pull....but at night. All season long, I have only seen him on camera at night....never during daylight.
    Fast forward to December 14, 2018, Gimp made a bad decision of being 120yd away from my muzzleloader in daylight. Perfect broadside shot was made and he expired in seconds.
    I feel super greatful to have watched this buck on camera since summer and then to have harvest him almost a week ago! It's an unreal feeling when you have watched a buck for that long and then to harvest them afterwards....a stronger connection. I feel super greatful for this experience and has made me appreciate hunting even more!!
    I took my time getting as much from Gimp as I could to feed my family. I'll take great care to make a good euro mount from Gimp so he'll forever be cherished in my home!
     
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  6. Dec 20, 2018 at 2:21 PM
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    Nice job!!
     
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  7. Dec 20, 2018 at 2:27 PM
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    Thanks! I know it's not archery kill, but thought id share the story!
     
  8. Dec 20, 2018 at 2:42 PM
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    A kill, is a kill,especially cool when you have a history with the animal you’re pursuing and harvest him.
     
  9. Dec 20, 2018 at 6:50 PM
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    Great job and great story! Congrats! This thread was fizzling a little and we needed some good pics and a story or two.
     
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  10. Dec 20, 2018 at 6:53 PM
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    Is flintlock season just that or does it mean muzzle loaders in general? Sorry if that's a stupid question.
    I don't know the difference, if there is one.
     
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    Nope....no stupid quesions. PA's flintlock season is the only truly primitive season left (I think) in the states. No inlines, no percussion cap. Up until a few years ago, it was strictly iron sights, patched round ball. So what that means, I'll load my .50 caliber T/C Renegade with 80grains of 2F powder, firmly seat a .490 patched round ball over the charge, cock the hammer halfway, open the frizzen, prime the pan with just enough 4F to fill it to the touch hole and close the frizzen. If it rains, Ill cover the pan with a piece of canvas or something waterproof and a balloon over the muzzle. Gosh I love it!!

    It's basically a 50-75 yard weapon. At least in my hands. There are some that are quite good at 100 yards. I'm not one of them.

    Here's some pics of the difference between the locks on a flintlock and a percussion cap muzzleloader.

    Flintlock. Frizzen is shown open. Pic is actually of a T/C Renegade. Pan below open frizzen gets filled with 4F (real fine fast burning) powder.

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    Percussion cap. Cap is placed over nipple. Typically somewhat more reliable than a flintlock, less affected by weather and quicker firing as the pan powder doesn't need to ignite.

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    Our late season allows for either flintlock or archery, so depending on the mood and weather, I'll be carrying one or the other.
     
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    I know it's not archery..... but here's a couple of custom flintlocks made by Paul Allison, here in Lancaster County, PA. He does all the woodwork, inlay work, etc. Buys the barrels and the locks, does the rest. They are incredible works of art. The property I currently hunt on, the caretaker was a cabinetmaker and custom built flintlocks. He did everything except the barrels. I was looking at several the one time I stopped to check a deer in. Again the workmanship was amazing. I asked how many hours he had in it. His reply, 200 hours and it wasn't quite done. Both he and Paul had one thing in common. They said their muzzleloaders were made to be shot and hunted with. Not hung over a fireplace as a show piece.

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    Before I was introduce to muzzle loading, that's what I was expecting to see people using instead of the scopes and rifled barrels of modern muzzle loaders. It would be cool to hunt with an actual legit musket like that. Would be fun just to have one to shoot.
     
  14. Dec 21, 2018 at 6:47 AM
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    Nothing against in-lines. I have one. CVA Hunter, .50cal, Nikon 3x9 scope. It is NOT a primitive weapon by any means. With 90gr of Triple7, Hornady 245gr sabot hollow points, I can shoot 1-1/2" groups at 100 yards all day long. It's basically a single shot rifle with an effective range of 200-250 yards. We have an inline (doe only) season during the middle of archery and I take it out occasionally and also in our special regs area. There has been a concerted push to get in-lines into the flintlock season because, well, it's a muzzleloader. And yes, while it's true it loads from the muzzle, all similarities end there. The flintlock season was added after Christmas as a very low impact season. It's a tough time to hunt. Weather is bad, deer are wired, and fewer in number. It's a challenge. Fortunately the flinters are a small but very vocal group and have managed to keep the season as is. Primitive. What would be cool, is a three day flintlock season (buck only)after archery and before rifle. Right now, after Christmas a lot of the bucks are dropping their antlers so a 3 day season while they still have their racks would be sweet.
     
  15. Dec 21, 2018 at 7:11 AM
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    I need to shoot Flintlock. I imagine it's not easy. I believe the same effective range as a compound. Google says 100, but that would indeed be a stretch with a smooth bore and pretty much no sights.
     
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    Great explanation! Thank you. I just bowhunt and it's interesting to see the various ways and weapons people use.
     
  17. Dec 27, 2018 at 2:46 PM
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    Well....yesterday was a bust. Dropped my son off with the flintlock. He was going hunt along the inside edge of a pipeline that runs through the property. I had my bow and was hunting out of the stand that I shot my 8 point from. My son's plan was to hunt back to our one stand, about a 1/2 mile, then hunt back the opposite side. Around 8am he texts me to tell me they started to timber back there. Damn!! They weren't supposed to start until after all the seasons were closed. I told him I'd pick him up at 9am. Around 8:45am I head back to my truck. Back at the parking area I smell a dead animal. There at the edge is a small doe, gutted and left to lay. Sonuva....... Driving out I spot another dead deer between the road and a creek. I get out to check it out. It was a buck, shot thru the neck and the rack sawed off. :mad::mad: That just totally pisses me off beyond belief. Drive the mile or so to pick up my son. He wants to shoot flintlock, so OK, go ahead. He discharges it and we case it. I have a trail cam about 200 yards up the pipeline and suggest pulling the card. Half way there, we see two doe walking across the pipeline into the side the trail cam is on. "Let's go back, load the flintlock and see if we can make something happen." Go back, pour the charge in, short start the 250 Powerbelt, go to ram the charge home, seizes up about 1/2 way down. AYFKM!!! Look for the small pouch that has the ball puller in it. Nope, it's at home. Which is where we head. *sigh*
     
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    Poachers suck. Don't understand the gutted doe. Someone shot it, gutted it and left it?
     
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    Yup. She was pretty small, maybe 80 lbs. No sign that it was tagged. I've shot some does that have suffered from ground shrinkage, but it never ever stopped me from tagging it and taking it home.
     
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