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Tacoma 2.5" x 12-14" Shock Relocation 2005-2023 2nd 3rd gen Archive Garage

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Mar 2, 2020 at 3:10 PM
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    Looks like SCS has 3.5 BS on this model w/ an aggressive negative offset too. My only worries is that this wheel is wider than mine (9” instead of 8”)

    I guess spacers aren’t the end of the world, although I would like to avoid them.
     
  2. Mar 2, 2020 at 3:12 PM
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    True true. But I am still seconding what Eric says.
     
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  3. Mar 2, 2020 at 3:13 PM
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    The back of the wheel and tire would be in the same area no matter the width with the same BS.

    What I'm saying is a 17x8.5 wheel with a 0 offset is the same as a 17x9 with a -12 offset essentially. It just moves more of the wheel outward away from the shock etc
     
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  4. Mar 2, 2020 at 3:17 PM
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    What size spacers are you running ? I’m leaning towards tall skinny tire route when I upgrade the suspension. Likely will stay close to 33s w/ 285. Did the spacers create clearance issues up front ?
     
  5. Mar 2, 2020 at 3:20 PM
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    Got it. I’m swapping wheels at some point to 17s anyway for better tire options and big brake upgrade.
    Guess worst case is I’ll need spacers also. But all this input has made me fear them a little less. Thank you !
     
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  6. Mar 2, 2020 at 3:21 PM
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    To chime in I run spacers both front and rear. 1.25 front and 2 rear. Larger in the rear to help clear shocks. I wheel hard and no issues either. The key is a quality brand and proper installation
     
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  7. Mar 2, 2020 at 3:47 PM
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    Yep, I have 3.5” BS and 2.5 shocks with 315s and my tires kiss the shock body
     
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  8. Apr 3, 2020 at 8:07 AM
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    anyone ever end up running 3.0’s in the rear? Possible overkill, but also could be solid for future rear camper set up
     
  9. Apr 3, 2020 at 8:42 AM
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    Still haven't heard of anyone doing 3.0 smoothies (Bypass definitely won't fit).

    I personally have loaded my DCSB Tacoma with 1,400 lbs of steel with center of gravity about 2 feet behind the rear axle to test my AAL, and my rear AccuTuned Fox 2.5 DSC's handled it amazingly during on road driving. I first drove about 40 miles with the DSC only a few clicks above soft and it was still respectable, then I drove to a truck scale with knobs cranked all the way up and it was like the rear stopped moving and was super controlled. My rear shocks where valved for near stock weight. So 2.5 has plenty of valving capacity for all the control that you could ever need on a Tacoma rear leaf spring setup (~1:1 ratio). The only possible thing you could say is the 3.0 has more oil volume to run cooler longer. If you are worried about that, you can still get a finned reservoir for 2.5s
     
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  10. Apr 3, 2020 at 12:29 PM
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    You would bend the frame before you'd ever put enough force to need 3.0s. The below shocks are what I'm about to stuff in, Fox 2.5" x 14" and they are massive, significantly bigger than the King 2" x 12" I have on my other truck.

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    I normally go out with about 700 lbs in the back and the Kings never got so hot I couldn't keep my hand on them even after 50+ mph down desert trails. 3.0s would be like driving a dump truck, you would need some serious valve work to get them to ride well.
     
  11. Apr 7, 2020 at 7:18 PM
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    Since you can literally have dozens of combinations, it could be different on every combo. To properly answer the question, I would need to know some details like brand of shock, compressed length, leaf pack. Did you get the instructions?

    However, if you have the standard length 2.5x14 Fox/King with compressed length ~23.25", then the axle tab lower long edge will be close to 45 degrees below horizontal
     
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  12. May 2, 2020 at 1:34 PM
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    This relocate is a piece of art. Worth the premium price.

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    Looks great! Stuff a 14” or 12”? Looks like a 14”.
     
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    14”. I think it’s a great fit because at full droop, there’s about 1/2” of remaining shaft. We’ll put limit straps on to protect the shock. At full bump, there’s about 1” extra shaft, maybe a little more. So even if somehow his bump stops fall off, the shock won’t bottom out.
     
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    Looking to add this to my setup. Right now I'm looking at King 1.5"-3.0" extended travel front coilovers, 12" travel rear king smoothie shocks, this relocation bracket, and a set of stage 2 Deaver Expedition leafs. Would there be any fitment issues with that? Running 12" of travel in the rear and a mid travel rated front, could that cause issues. Also aside from the actual Relocation bracket, UCA's, Front Coilovers, Rear shocks, new leafs, bumpstops, and a needle joint is there anything I am missing the make this all work. Also I will be running the stock 265/70/16 tires for a while, will they need spacers?
     
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  16. May 19, 2020 at 2:50 PM
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    Tons of people run extended MT front with 12" rear shocks, and it works great. I can't tell you about the front selection, but the Archive rear formula is:
    Deaver U402
    Archive Relocation
    2.5x12 smoothies
    1.5" wheel spacers depending on wheels
    24-26" brake lines
    Archive Hammer hangers
    Archive Stealth HD U-bolt flip Option 3 or 4
     
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  17. May 20, 2020 at 10:49 AM
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    Loving these damn things, they should have come like this from the factory.

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    Awesome, thanks for posting
     
  19. May 20, 2020 at 3:06 PM
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    Installed this on my truck a year ago and @Derpiful truck over the weekend. Awesome stuff. Would buy again every time
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    Happen to know which leafs those are?
     
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