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Archive Garage 2005-2023 Tacoma Leaf Springs MD HD XD

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. Nov 22, 2023 at 1:26 PM
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    Supr4Lo

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    Perfect, only 1/4" thicker than my current pack. Thank you! I already have an extra set of round U-bolts that I got a while ago from you.

    Excited to give the MD pack a go! The Dobinsons 110's I have are now flat after about 2.5 years.
     
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  2. Dec 27, 2023 at 12:19 PM
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    @ARCHIVE I installed the MD leafs today. How much can I expect them to settle? Currently sitting at 26" hub to fender with an empty bed.


    Compared to my old Dobinsons 110's (which are muddy) 20231227_100317.jpg


    Installed

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    Guess I'll have to adjust the front up some. It is currently at about 2" of lift.
    20231227_133240.jpg

    Now the whole rear is Archive. Hammer hangers with cross tube, trail series shock relocation, U-Bolt flip option 3, and now Leaf springs.
     
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  3. Dec 27, 2023 at 3:41 PM
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    Thanks for your support! Should come down a little 1/4"-1/2" over time. You're probably about 2.5" lift because you don't have much weight, as you say bed is empty. But it's good to have capacity for your trips when loaded.

    Eric
     
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  4. Feb 8, 2024 at 7:13 AM
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    A couple of those links are broken. Can you update your original post?
     
  5. Feb 8, 2024 at 6:55 PM
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    Thanks for heads up, fixed
     
  6. Feb 9, 2024 at 7:33 PM
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    Hey Eric,
    I have some deaver u402 stage 3 springs that are a few years old and they are already sagging. Would the deaver xd be the one to get?
    Thanks
     
  7. Feb 10, 2024 at 4:40 AM
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    Best thing to do is weigh the rear axle before you spend more money, so you're not guessing.

    I've had about 6 customers underestimate their rear axle load by an actual 1,000 lbs

    But Archive XDs do sound like a good fit if your stg 3s are flattened or negative arch
     
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  8. Feb 10, 2024 at 7:00 AM
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    Good idea. How does one weigh their rear axle load?
    Thanks!
     
  9. Feb 10, 2024 at 7:34 AM
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    It is good to load it up like it would be for a trip, then go to your local scale, such as at a scrap yard.

    I recommend getting whole vehicle weight, then pulling forward with front axle off scale, just weighing rear axle weight.

    For a Double Cab, stock rear axle weight is about 1900 lbs
     
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  10. Feb 10, 2024 at 8:27 AM
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    How accurate are weigh stations?
     
  11. Feb 10, 2024 at 12:36 PM
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    Plenty accurate enough, +/- 50lbs is as close as you need. Scales near me read in 20lb increments

    Ask them if it's certified, and how accurate
     
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    @ARCHIVE Possibly a dumb question, but will the MD leaf pack work with a stock hanger/shock tower configuration?
     
  13. Mar 7, 2024 at 5:44 AM
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    Yes. We do recommend a shock for lift that doesn't exceed 15" in it's collapsed length, but has over 24" extended length.

    The stock hangers will flex more as you increase the leaf spring rate, we highly recommend Hammer Hangers for ride quality, no matter what springs you have.
     
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  14. May 18, 2024 at 10:41 AM
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    Back and forth between the XD and he spring. If I get the XD spring and it ends up being to much am I able to pull 1 leaf out to get to the hd capacity?
     
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    Yes the XD is the HD + 1 leaf.
    So you can swap back and forth
     
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  16. May 25, 2024 at 4:08 PM
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    @ARCHIVE Would I be able to run the MD leaf springs with no weight in the bed. I would like the rear pretty much level to maybe a inch of rake. Currently running allpro std leafs and the timbren bumps are pretty much touching the frame without weight in the bed
     
  17. May 25, 2024 at 10:10 PM
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    Ordered on Monday and should be getting them soon! Hammer hangers already installed! Was for sure a full day of work doing it on the side the street but got it done!

    I did order the XD pack but will remove a leaf to install as the HD leaf pack. What springs is the +1 that I need to remove?

    Thanks!
     
  18. May 27, 2024 at 6:01 AM
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    Yes you can, expect about 3" lift. 3" lift will measure about 11.25" from top of axle tube inboard of perch, up to bottom of frame
     
  19. May 27, 2024 at 6:03 AM
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    Thanks for the support! Pull leaf #6 from top (the shortest arched leaf)
     
  20. May 27, 2024 at 12:32 PM
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    Ok thanks. Will measure and see
     
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