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Are CAI worth it over OEM ? Power and filtering pros and cons

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Rambo925, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. Jan 27, 2018 at 8:49 PM
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    Rambo925

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    Power and filtering pros and cons? Dry vs oiled?
     
  2. Jan 27, 2018 at 8:52 PM
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    If you can tune for it, it would be worth it
     
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    Your stock intake is already cold air. Take a look at the inlet.

    Only possible power increase will be at wide open throttle and then only about a percent or two. How often are you There?

    The filtration level and dirt holding capacity is not as good as OEM. If something gets through to your engine you wanna face Toyota with a warranty claim with a non stock filter? I don't.

    You get sound. That's it.
     
  5. Jan 27, 2018 at 8:56 PM
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    Ya I’m more concerned with the filtering part of it. Are the CAI better at filtering since they have more layers ?
     
  6. Jan 27, 2018 at 8:59 PM
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    They look cool and because they typically eliminate the intake resonator you usually have increased induction noise....which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on your taste.

    If there is any gain, it will be so small that you'll never feel it. The noise might give you some placebo and make your rig feel quicker though.

    If you're going to insist on wasting....I mean spending money on one...get a dry filter. The oiled filters are not worth the hassel.

    Keep in mind that your stock intake already draws in cooler outside air.
     
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    No. OEM filters best. Also OEM is a CAI.
     
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    Ok forgetting about which pulls in colder air. would a dry filter on a CAI filter better or atleast the same as a oem filter?
     
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    No. It's not about how many layers the filter has, it is about the space in between the fibers, which is measured in microns. The size is the key because that is what keeps the little 10 micron dirt particles out. Just stick with OEM. You can't go wrong there.
     
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    Possibly a donaldson dry filter if volant makes an intake for 3rd gens
     
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    If you can suffer an Instagram link, here you can follow the saga of a sad dude who dusted his engine with a janky AFE filter, thus voiding his Toyota warranty. Apparently, his engine is so damaged by the failed filter that he needs a whole new engine.

    Dragging the dead truck around to different dealers, and endless threatening tags didn’t change Toyota’s mind. If your aftermarket crap shits the bed, you are on your own. Stick with stock until your warranty is up.

    https://instagram.com/p/BedeAg8AkMD/
     
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    its sad how toyota is getting a bad rep from this too.
     
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    That’s the times we live in, unfortunately. Personally I respect a company that doesn’t give into the mob, but it’s probably not good for business. I suppose on some level Toyota must also be thinking “if we let ourselves be bullied into a warranty claim by BS social media posts, it will set a precedent we don’t want to set”. :angrygirl:
     
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    The intake design on the Tacoma comes factory awesome.

    If it rolled off the line with this-
    32F6BC74-6A3D-42C2-91BD-19414102F906.jpg

    People would be crawling all over themselves to get their hands on the true cold air intake that breathes outside the engine compartment. What a revolution.

    I think sometimes there is a misconception about stock, the notion being “low performance” or “less ideal”. It took me awhile before I realized Toyota got it right. The paper filter provides optimum flow and optimum filtration tolerances, after all, it’s the filter that the engine designers vouch for. You can mod the system and not damage anything, but my advice is look elsewhere for upgrades. Why fuck with something that’s well thought out, had dedicated r&d time, and is executed perfectly.
     
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    Paper is optimum flow?

    Why does the 2nd gen blower come from toyota with a gauze filter?

    Just a serious question.
     
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    When I say “paper” I mean oem spec flitration/properties. I just say paper.
     
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    ... which is taken out when even the dealership installs a blower and then installs a gauze filter.
     
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    “Are CAI worth it over OEM? Power and filtering pros and cons
    I thought this was about CAI, filtering, and aftermarket filtration options (dry vs oiled), what does that have to do with a blower and gauze? I’m under the impression that OP is NA and asking about NA options, to which my suggestion is stick with oem SPEC filtration, and don’t bother with the design, as it’s already able to let in exactly what the engine needs, as it’s designed.
     
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    Its a filter that gets replaced per instructions.
    Yes the op is na, the 3.5 has no fi options on the table yet.

    U posted "the oem has optimum flow".
    So i was wondering why toyota rips them out for forced induction....

    Maybe ur meaning "adequate flow"?
     

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