Are These Camburg Coilovers For A 1st Gen?

I helped a buddy of mine take some old coilovers off of his truck last year and he said he had a 2009. He ended up giving them to me and I sold them on here to another member. Recently I had to buy these back from the guy I sold them to because he tried to install them on his 2006 and they wouldn't fit. He said he called Camburg and they said these were for a 1st gen. He had them rebuilt by DC Shock Services, so I had to pay him for that. I am looking to resell these, but want to make sure they fit a 1st gen before I list them.

Thoughts?

 

Those are definitely not for a first gen. These are first gen Camburgs...
Sounds like the guy didn't know what he was doing when installing them. They should have fit his second gen

 

Ya they are definitely for a second gen.

 

The guy who bought them does know they go in a certain way right? Large spacer goes to the rear....?

 

Hi, I'm the guy that bought them. I actually ended up taking them to a shop and having them try to install them since I ran into problems on my install and needed it done soon. They called a me while I was on vacation and said they couldn't get them to fit. Mentioned that the slots on the top didn't fit the bolt pattern on the strut mounts at all. So I sent a picture of them to Camburg and they (Carlos) said they were definitely 1st gen.


As an aside I can vouch for the seller here. He was great on backing up his sale. I emailed him when I found out and he wasted no time in trying to make it right.

 

Well that's good!

The only think I can think of, is someone might have re built the upper uni ball and replaced the top mount with a first gen mount. The actually body of the shock though is definitely for a second gen. I'd call Camburg and ask them for replacement top mount plate for a second gen.

The one that's on there now looks identical to mine. Which is a first gen

 

Possible shocks for a bracket lift?

 

Here are pictures of the top plate. Camburg said the only difference between the first and second gen coilovers is the valving, which is untrue because the bottom shock mounts are different.

Thoughts?

 

Uh why is there so many holes in the top cap? Looks second gen to me

 

Could be mounting holes for Tundra's.

On my Dirt Logics, which are essentially Camburgs which are essentially all Sway A Way's I had to mount the schreader valve facing inward as that is they way the holes would line up. You could take the top plate off and rotate it, but thats a pain in the ass. NOW the lower mount is for the 2nd gen. You can, however replace that with a shorter one from Sway A Way. You just heat up the lower mount with a MAP gas torch and unbolt.

 

That's 100% a first gen top cap. It's definitely been switched

 

Kayla here emailed you this....

"Okay, talking to the guys, they said the only difference between the Older Tacoma and Older Tundra coilovers is the internal valving. The coilovers for the Older Tundra are valved to be stiffer, but other than that, there is no difference."

She did not tell you first gen tacoma and 2nd gen tacoma are the same. She said old Tacoma and Tundra are the same coilovers with different valving.

As far as the pictures you posted here .... the shock body looks to be a 2005-15 Tacoma since it has the long rod end on it. You didn't email us that pic. The top mount appears to be the a 96-04 and 00-06 Tundra top mount since it has 2 bolt patterns machined into it. That's how sway-away made those top mounts, same part fits 2 trucks. It's hard to give exact specs from pics since you have no way to verify true dimensions.

I would email or call Eric at Sway-Away since they have blue prints on all that stuff, they've made revisions throughout the years on those parts. Have no clue how old these are.

eric@swayaway.com

Did shock re-builder install wrong or other customers mounting plates back on the shocks after they were fully taken apart and rebuilt?

If none of those bolt holes lined up in any orientation/rotation than it's not the right one and would have never fit any 05-14 models.


Make sense?


- Scott @ Camburg

 

I went custom with a Camburg upper top hat mount using a non OE Sway-A-Way coilover. Eliminates the lower spacered shock mount with a solid one piece shock mount rod end and bolts right up to the top hat and bottom shear mounts no problem. Camburg makes some great products.

 

Makes sense, this is the detailed information I was looking for when I emailed Kayla, thanks Scott. I misread her original email, obviously.

 

It's all good ... I've even seen customers install longer rod ends on our OE coilovers to make them work with 6" drop down bracket style lift kits. Either way Eric or Keith at Sway-Away will be able to fill in the blanks for ya. Wish I had more answers but I dont have any blue prints on that stuff.

 

Could the lower mount be changed to work on 1st gen?

 

It "could" be done, but it would be a ton of work. The red mounting "neck" if you will, is part of the shock shaft. The red collar/cup that the spring sits on has machined surface that it bottoms out on. You'd have to switch the entire shock body.

Basically...whoever re built these coilovers didn't know the difference between first and second gen. Used a first gen top cap on. Second gen shock. You'd be better off just buying the right ones in the first place instead of switching everything.

 

Top cap is the same one it arrived with, and the same one that came back after it was rebuilt. Unless you mean the original owner, then I have no idea.

 

If it's the original cap then it would bolt right up to the coil bucket. Maybe they got put on 180 degrees wrong so it looked like it wouldn't fit with the schrader pointing outward. Either way talk to Sway-Away and they will get it figured it out in 5 minutes or less.

 

I didn't say it was original, I said that was the cap that was on it when it went and came back from the guy who rebuilt them.