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Arizona shuts down speed cameras on freeways

Discussion in 'Arizona' started by Packman73, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. Jul 16, 2010 at 9:23 AM
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    Speed cameras on freeways across Arizona went dark just before midnight last night, ending the state's controversial experiment with photo enforcement.
    The short-lived program expired after the state Department of Public Safety decided against renewing its contract with camera vendor Redflex Traffic Systems. Gov. Jan Brewer signaled in January that she planned to bring the cameras down.

    From the beginning, photo cameras had been heavily criticized as a government money-making scheme that did not enhance public safety.
    The program even incited vandalism of cameras and the fatal shooting of a Redflex technician last year.
    Supporters point to studies suggesting photo enforcement reduces crashes and saves lives. And with the cameras gone, Redflex is warning that speeding will spike to dangerous levels.
    "This should be a wake-up call to everyone in the community to be even more careful and watch for a large increase in aggressive, dangerous driving," said Shoba Vaitheeswaran, a spokeswoman for Redflex, which has its U.S. headquarters in Phoenix.
    Meanwhile, critics are cheering the move as a victory for personal liberties.
    Former state Rep. Sam Crump, a Republican who resigned to run for Congress, said the cameras are an abuse of technology in the hands of government and could lead to more intrusive practices.
    "I can see the Obama administration putting a chip in every car and saying, 'We'll issue a ticket,' " if you break the law, he said.
    Cities with their own speed-camera programs, including Phoenix, Mesa, Scottsdale and Chandler, are not affected by DPS' decision.
    Efforts to outlaw photo enforcement statewide through a ballot initiative have not gotten enough voter signatures or have died in the Arizona Legislature.
    Redflex has until mid-November to remove its 78 fixed and mobile cameras from Arizona freeways. The company said it will leave the fixed cameras in place through Labor Day to gather data on speeding trends after the program's end.
    Crews were to begin removing signs for the cameras around midnight Thursday. The warning signs will be replaced by messages from the Arizona Department of Transportation reminding people to drive safely.
    Since the cameras first popped up in September 2008, they have snapped more than 2.7 million times. Of those, only about 16 percent resulted in paid citations, generating $78 million for a fund controlled by the Legislature.
    Then-Gov. Janet Napolitano, who shepherded the program before resigning to join the Obama administration last year, famously estimated the cameras would generate $90 million in their first year.
    DPS officials have been ambiguous about whether they hope to revive the program sometime in the future.
    Two days before a top commander sent a letter to Redflex indicating the agency would let the contract expire, he sent legislators an e-mail lobbying them to support a bill giving DPS full control over the program. That bill passed.
    The agency won't answer questions about its lobbying for the bill. But a future governor could bring the cameras back.
    Recently appointed DPS Director Robert Halliday has said he scrapped photo enforcement because he was uncomfortable with the perception that DPS was more interested in revenue than safety.
    One of Halliday's top priorities as director has been to increase the number of Highway Patrol officers, believing that troopers in marked cars, not cameras, will make Arizona's roadways safer.
    However, there is no planned increase in patrol efforts to coincide with the end of photo enforcement, said Robert Bailey, a DPS spokesman. Officers will be "patrolling just like they did the day before," he said.


    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic...na-turns-off-speed-cameras.html#ixzz0trZRsOD5
     
  2. Jul 16, 2010 at 9:24 AM
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  4. Jul 16, 2010 at 9:43 AM
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    People were still slamming on their brakes this morning. I had read somewhere that they would be covered up until taken down, but apparently thats not the case. I sped by one just to make sure they were off.

    I thought the 101 was going to be like the Indy 500 but it wasn't. It will be soon though.
     
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    The 101 is only for qualifying. The 202 is the new Indy 500. The 60 is pit lane. THe 87 is the "Raod coarse". The 10 and the 17 is for running 1/4 miles.....Am I missing any?
     
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    The lower 51 is the caution flag...
     
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    I think they cameras will be back in no time. The new director of DPS is for them, but he wants to be the one controlling them, not Redflex or some other third party. Anyone else think they will be back soon?

    I am sure Redflex is not excited about losing this account.

    I received 3 tickets in the two years they were up. I dodged the process server on the first 2. There is still 2 months left on the last one that they can still serve me.
     
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    Yeah, the 51 sucks down there. The speed limit drops to 55 and there is a camera right there. The 17 gets people all the time down around Dunlap, where I think the speed limit drops to 55. Sneaky little bastards.

    Atleast they changed the inner loop by the airport to 65 from 55. All of the 10 is now 65. I try to stick to the 10 for this reason.
     
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    Hey when I left 3 years ago I thought they already covered them up? Your welcome I got to place most of that shortcut called 51.
     
  14. Jul 16, 2010 at 7:36 PM
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    I like how most people already forgot the cameras were on and already back to 75-80 lol.
     
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    Speed does not kill. It's the sudden deceleration that does.

    Also tbh, if it wasn't for the horrible drivers around here, the infrastructure could support much higher speeds than is posted... but since people think eating and texting is more important than actually driving.....

    Anyway, I'm all for red light cameras, but not speed.
     
  18. Aug 3, 2010 at 7:03 PM
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    did they turn the fuckin cameras on the freeways back on?
     
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    Uh no... I hope not anyway I was going with traffic yesterday and it was doing about 11-15 over consistently minus a few out of towners that panic braked to 30 seeing them...
     
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