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  1. Mar 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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    If the slope of the water line is to steep to get the pipe level when entering the basement, would it be a good idea to throw a pair of 45 degree elbows along with a short section of pipe to essentially raise the pipe?
    Thanks

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  2. Mar 19, 2012 at 1:36 PM
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    Interesting discussion on the water main replacement as I have somewhat of a similar situation. I plan to cut back the galv as far as I can without digging and connect some 3/4" copper through a dielectric union.

    I do have another question for you plumbers. How common is it for a toilet to have a bad casting? I have installed a new toilet twice now, once with a normal thickness wax and rubber seal and once with a jumbo wax and rubber seal. Both times it seems I have a small leak because I notice my grout lines are just a little wet near the toilet. When I took the toilet up to reset it the area around the flange did not look very wet, but there was some brown spongey mold looking stuff growing underneath the toilet. The water level in the bowl does go down a little after its done filling and I can hear a bit of a gurgle as well. Just wondering if I should pull it and swap it out...
     
  3. Mar 19, 2012 at 2:03 PM
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    So I got with the local plumbing inspector, he was very helpful. But now I seem to have even more questions....First off he said it would be fine for me to do the work myself.

    He suggested polyethylene tubing, not pex as opposed to copper.

    He suggested I step my pipe size up to 1" since I'll have two bathrooms.

    He said there should not be any joints in the tubing, I wasn't aware that I should be looking at a continuous piece of soft copper for the main?
     
  4. Mar 19, 2012 at 4:39 PM
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    use copper for the supply.

    plastic pipe is for drains and bongs.

    I'm old school like that :D
     
  5. Mar 19, 2012 at 6:22 PM
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    Will do, that is too funny....Thanks, made my day....

    Is soft rolled copper typical in this application?

    Is type M suitable? not sure how easy I could find K

    Is 3/4" big enough? I have 700 sq. ft house with full basement.
    Will have at least 1 1/2 baths. I'm thinking it will be plenty....
     
  6. Mar 19, 2012 at 8:19 PM
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    :D

    yes...soft M under my slab on my new build...done it a hundred times. sleeved, and w/o any joints, of course.

    3/4" is fine IMO.

    I have 3/4" supply coming into the home...run to the WH, 1/2" supplies run to all fixtures throughout.
     
  7. Mar 19, 2012 at 8:51 PM
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    I DONT KNOW WHERE U PEOPLE ARE FROM BUT AROUND HERE TYPE K IS THE ONLY THING ALLOWED FROM CITY MAIN INTO YOUR HOME...
    if that is in fact what we are talking about in here....
    afyer that anything goes, copper, pex ect
    me id use copper ......its expensive and no not soft copper......"for insdie the home"
    pex is fine as well.....but the fittings are brass...and i am not fimular with costs......
    type m is for heating.......type L is fine for potable.......
     
  8. Mar 19, 2012 at 8:56 PM
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  9. Mar 19, 2012 at 10:11 PM
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    What...bongs????:rofl:
     
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    I'm in Illinois....sigh
    I'll need to talk with my local plumbing inspector again to get some clarifications. He said to use plastic pipe over copper. He specifically said no PEX. Anyway I'm going with copper, the thicker the better. A strange thing he said was to have no buried joints, this is what got me guessing at rolled copper. Not sure where I would get a continuous piece of rigid copper 40' long........
     
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    The only place i think you would find 40' of rolled copper is a plumbing supply house
     
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    I cut some wires here. Added some wires there.
    Type M is softer than L or K.

    I would suggest stopping at a plumbing supply house. We have TONS of damaged copped tubing. We'd sell you 3', 4', 8' happily. 20' lengths get damaged all the time in the warehouse. They get cut down to 10' and put back into stock. The damaged piece gets the damage cut out. The damaged part goes to the scrap yard, the straight length goes in the corner for guys like you.
     
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    The inspector mentioned I shouldn't have any joints underground, which made me think I would have to use "rolled" copper or find a continuous piece of rigid 40 + feet long.....lol

    I'll get with the inspector for some clarification.

    At this point I'm looking at a 60' roll of 3/4" copper (type K).
    I'll check for it locally, but did find some at one of my haunts...McMasterCarr
    http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-copper-tubing/=gqv7kk
    They want $375 for a 60' roll of the 3/4" type K.
    Not sure if this is a fair price....
     
  16. Mar 20, 2012 at 8:56 AM
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    I cut some wires here. Added some wires there.
    No, It's not. At all.

    Granted, I'm not in your market, but if you walked in off the street today we would charge you $273.45. High volume contractors would pay $239. Our cost today as a wholesaler is under $200. They're robbing you. Like I said, I'm in NJ and it's a different economy/market, but hopefully you can use that info to your benefit. That sounds like a very high price.
     
  17. Mar 20, 2012 at 9:00 AM
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    I cut some wires here. Added some wires there.
    Have you looked into poly? Not pex, poly. We carry Endot pipe and Legend Valve fittings to put it all together.

    "ENDOPOLY Pipe and Tubing is ideal for Deep Well installations, Lawn Sprinkler Systems and Water Mains and Service Connections, Geothermal Applications and Sewage Forced Mains and Grinder Pump Connections."

    A 100' roll sells for less than $30.

    Sorry for just butting in. I keep seeing this Ask a Plumber thread right on top and can't help but click it. I have these parts sitting on my desk as I type.
     
  18. Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM
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    Ok last time ' copper for your main. From curb to house no joints....mk comes in rolls of 60 or 90 feet only......
    And type m is not softer
     
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    Type m is thin wall tube used for heating......
     
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    Is that the same as is used for propane ?
     

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