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Aux PTO Hydraulic Power

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by MountainN22, Mar 3, 2018.

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Which of the options should I do?

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  1. Mar 3, 2018 at 8:18 PM
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    MountainN22

    MountainN22 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking of running a hydraulic winch and a hydraulic cylinder on my bed.

    Here are the options I've come up with so far:

    1) Draw off of the power steering pump.
    Main concern is if the pump is up to the task,supposedly runs near 1000psi?

    2) Complete separate hydraulic system with a Supercharger pulley to run the pump.
    Best performance wise,but large and complicated.

    3) Is there some way to tap into the transmission/transfer-case for a PTO?

    4) Just run a electric winch and electric power pack for the cylinders.

    5) Same as 4 but with air-over-hydraulic for the cylinders.
    Like a air/hydraulic jack.

    6) I'm crazy doing this to a "mini truck". (not like that will stop me)



    What do you guys/gals suggest?


    Note: I currently have a electric Warn 9.5 winch. But I always worry about killing my battery when winching, so I kind of avoid using it for more than a quick pull. I may just be paranoid.
     
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  2. Mar 4, 2018 at 5:18 AM
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    So this PTO setup would be for a winch? I think you are being a little paranoid.

    If you are really worried about stress on the winch and thus the battery. Use the winch in a method that creates less load.

    Most winches are rated at the drum. So your 9500 winch is only rated at 9500lbs when pulling directly off the drum. (1 wrap if cable on the winch). For every extra wrap of cable on the drum, the weight rating goes down.

    Another way to reduce strain on the winch is to use a block (pulley). You would basically have cable coming from the winch, to the object you are winching too, running around a pulley, then back to your truck. This will increase the leverage the winch has on the pull.
     
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    More for the hydraulic cylinders.

    I was worried about the time factor on a longer pull. If I was to double it over in a snatch block the Amp draw goes down due to less load, but the time is doubled. Still would be less Amp Hrs due to the Peukert effect and the alternator charging. Not sure how much the alternator contributes. Of course I could just install dual batteries.

    Was thinking of it backwards. If I was to install a hydraulic system for the dump cylinder, may as well have the capability to run a hydraulic winch.
     
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  4. Mar 4, 2018 at 9:36 AM
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    I would be worried more about the continuous amp draw. (All at once). Taking strain off the electrical system by doubling the cable with a block along with using the winch with as few wraps on the drum as possible would accomplish that.

    As far as using the power steering pump, I don't know how you arrange that set up.

    What are you picking up that you need a crane on your Tacoma?
     
  5. Mar 4, 2018 at 9:39 AM
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    Itchyfeet

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    Seems like adding a PTO would just mean more shit to break out on the trail. I'd go dual batteries and upgraded alternator before I started fabercobbling some PTO drive
     
  6. Mar 4, 2018 at 10:01 AM
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    MountainN22

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    Was thinking of building some thing like this: Pivottray
    A crane was also considered.

    I've heard of winches run of the power steering. MileMarker makes adapters to do it. Wondering if it could support a cylinder too?

    300- 1700 Lb crates are my current nemesis. Currently most won't fit in my bed, but I just bought a trailer, and am designing on a flatbed.

    Why are the similar size hilux and 70 series sold overseas rated a 1 tonne, but the Tacoma is rated 500lbs in the bed and a gvwr less than the axles combined!!!:annoyed:
    /Rant over.
     
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