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Aviation BS and Photo Thread

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by justinmbowen, Feb 26, 2016.

  1. Nov 9, 2016 at 5:18 PM
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    Mtnflyer

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    We've been training out in the desert the last few weeks, operating without the usual amenities for aviation. These old girls are getting pretty filthy and the blades are being sandblasted to bare metal daily.
     
  3. Nov 9, 2016 at 5:37 PM
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    Jesus. your MX guys must be hating life right now
     
  4. Nov 9, 2016 at 6:02 PM
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    It's been rough but not terrible. The worst was a transmission replacement, the rest has mainly been accelerated wear and tear from the harsh environment.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM
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    SOSHeloPilot My Favorite Song :)

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    ...^^^... A friend of mine flew AH-64's A's - IIRC ... in Desert Storm.

    Then post the war .. he worked the contact job to refurb them via Agusta ... and the cost to refurb them was 50%+ of their original DoD contract cost ... due to harsh environmental operations.
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  6. Nov 9, 2016 at 6:46 PM
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    They definitely aren't cheap machines to operate or maintain.
     
  7. Nov 9, 2016 at 7:11 PM
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    SOSHeloPilot My Favorite Song :)

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    ...^^^... Here is my little unofficial asymmetrical cost of the warfare rant (from my calculations) of his AH-64 and it's actual combat use ... doing this for fun now from memory 20+ years ago.

    Considering he put about 25 missiles down range toward his target acquisition and used his chain gun maybe a total of 20 minutes in combat.

    So, without DoD original equipment costs & training costs ....... just calculating maintenance, operational budget, ordinance budget & use refurb. budget for his combat missions in D/S.

    The total cost to fire each smart missile was over a $1+Million (per shot) and much more expensive that the cost of the destroyed target.

    My point is the ... "unbelievable hidden cost of warfare" ... and many civilians never see or understand the maintenance required or the cost of combat for each hour of use and/or target destroyed.

    And .... getting into some of the more sophisticated fighters & bombers ... i.e. 16's, 18's, 22's, 35's, 117's, B-1's, B-2's and recon planes .... the cost per operational hour would be astronomical :eek: ... and the cost per combat hour and/or target destroyed would be super astronomical. :eek: :eek:

    FWIW ... this is where our enemies have been focusing because they can't beat us in technology ... "asymmetrical financial warfare" ... to take us down.
     
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  8. Nov 9, 2016 at 7:22 PM
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    A Hellfire costs on average $100k depending on variant, so shooting it at people is expensive but against a $2.2 million T-80 it's a bargain. Of course that is counterbalanced by the high cost of an Apache. Even upgrading existing D model airframes to E models runs about $25 million each.
     
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  9. Nov 9, 2016 at 7:23 PM
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    Incredible photo. Thank you for sharing.
     
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    ...^^^... Yep ... Keeping up these these aircraft is a very complicated and expensive task ... and not enough credit ever goes to the men & woman who keep theses birds in the air ... they are the backbone of today's military aviation ... :thumbsup:
     
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    $25 million for the upgrade to the AH64E is a small price to pay considering the expense of other aircraft. The value to the troops on the ground of REAL CAS aircraft is well documented. Just the FWIW from a used to be 68J
     
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    THANK YOU to all Veterans, young and old, for serving our country !!!

    HAVE A BLESSED VETERANS DAY
     
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    Thank you very much, and the same to all my fellow veterans - brothers and sisters all.

    :oldglory: and :canada: too!
     
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