Aviation BS and Photo Thread

I just retired after 31 years with American Eagle (now known as envoy air). Might try a corporate gig down the road. Enjoying doing nothing right now.

 

While you're doing nothing, try this thread and get to cookin'! https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/food-smokers-and-smoking-tips-tricks-techniques.229517/

 

I may have a bit of a biased opinion but it irks me how all these reports and the comments that go with them keep acting like there is some mystery design flaw that caused these planes to crash.

The cause of the Lion Air crash is now well understood to be the result of failures of both maintenance and pilot procedure. Boeing not providing enough information to pilots about the MCAS system functionality may be a contributing factor in the pilots not understanding what was going on but if they had followed the exact same procedure as the pilots on the previous flight the crash could have been prevented.

Without having any data at all on this crash I don't understand the big call to ground the fleet. It's entirely possible that having 2 of these planes go down is just an unfortunate statistical anomaly.

 

I've been waiting for this discussion to begin...i know there are peeps here with first hand knowledge on this release. I'd love to read some opinions.

 

I'm not surprised in the least if Boeing is producing planes with problems and failing to inform users of them about the changes and problems with them. Par for course with them in my experience.

 

Gotta wait for the FDR info. Then they can start addressing design flaws or modify training worldwide if that's what is needed. Remember the United 73 in Colorado Springs? All kinds of crazy theories there. Then USair in Pittsburgh happens and they have no clue. Then Eastwind survives the event and they narrowed it down to the PCU. They modified the part and updated training. There was some talk about grounding them but that didn't happen.

I'm curious what the Atlas FDR has to say. I haven't heard much about the CVR other than the ending is "consistent with a loss of control".

 

Yep! Super easy to fly. Enjoyed the hell out of that plane. 13GPH at 150ktas... I want one

 

It's because at this point, it is a manufactured crisis. No FDR data or any technical indications of malfunction, but they have to feed the 24/7 news cycle beast. Could there be an issue that is causing safety? Absolutely, given Boeing's track record the last 15-20 years. But when it is 2 of the most radically unsafe airline operations in the world that suffer accidents, and that isn't even remotely addressed in the discussion so far, that's what I take issue with.

I agree on the Atlas crash. That one got buried in the news almost immediately. As sad as it is, a cargo jet crashing has almost nobody on board. That doesn't really make it a story these days.

 

Yeah, some source I heard was 'safe operator' ... um, not those two.

 

Meanwhile in Russia...



I give him credit for using the tire cage, although incorrectly.

 

Good thing he has his safety squints on

 

Congrats on retiring! Why did you never go to a mainline? Timing just not work out and you didn't want to be at the bottom of the list again?

 

Correct. I was #3 in Laguardia. 5 weeks of vacation, weekends and holidays off. Going to mainline would have been a huge pay cut and I would have been on reserve. I'm too old for that crap.

 

My last trip with Eagle (I can't bring myself to call it envoy...stupid name)! Heading for JFK on 01/09/2019.

 

That's a nice view.

 

Sky surfing and morning "traffic" I deal with.

 

Name the plane!

 

One of the coolest I took. Coming outta MIA one night.

 

I just guessing, but a P51 Mustang?