AZ BS Thread 4.2⁰

@snowsk8air2

Treadwear update on the patagonias now?


My wildpeaks are already down to 4/32 at 32k, so im contemplating on just running cheapies in anticipation they'll wear fast no matter what in our Az heat.

 

Well I’ve only got maybe 3500-4K miles on them. Rotated once and they are wearing evenly thus far. I have been very happy with their performance in every aspect, snow, ice, rain, sand, dirt, rocks, and pavement. As little as I drive and as hard as I drive when I do, I’m not gonna be the best for tread wear comparisons. For me I expect they will last 3 years and 10-15k miles before I replace them. But this depends on how much I actually drive the truck.

 

Damn, thought you had some more miles on your set for feedback. I do more highway than trail miles going back and forth between our camp spots, but dont commute long distance for work anymore. If i can squeeze 25k out of a set ill be happy.



Thank you, ill keep prodding for other feedback

 

Proper alignment, rotations and tire pressures and you should be able to get that sort of mileage out of them no problem. I’m hearing of street queens and tow rigs pushing 40k out of them. Plus you’re a much lighter truck then I am. I’m anticipating low mileage out of mine based on my primary use is in the dirt. And I’ll likely replace them “early” to have fresh tires before winter in a few years. I don’t like starting winter with questionable tires.

But yeah I don’t put too many miles on the truck. I put 3042 miles on in the first year with the tires. And my trucks been broken for the last 2.5 months lol

 

I have a koi I need to re-home...anyone have a koi pond?

 

Anyone know some cool cliff jumping spots that aren't the normal ones like beaver creek, saguaro, and fossil creek? Fossil creek I'll still hit this summer but the other two get so busy when everyone's not in school.

 

Just the answer i needed/ was looking for, thank you!



That makes sense in your case, I will update once the set it on! First thing i've got to do is finish painting these old jeep take offs


Edit: GL with fixing the truck on your end too!

 

Thanks. I’m getting close. Last of the parts should be here this week so hopefully I can have her back on her own feet by middle of next week. Then it’s just plumbing new brakes and some wiring

 

Well that was remarkably easy...



Still considering my options as far as garage space reorganizing, and am gonna pick back up with people who wanted stuff out of the garage (plus adding some more things to the classifieds)

So real talk, I want to hear some opinions here. I'm sure there will be plenty of shitposting and memeing on me but I'm trying to figure out whether or not it makes sense to go TRD Premium to the tune of like ~4k difference MSRP over SR5 Premium.
I've got my eyes on a 4Runner mainly because it would make range trips more comfortable & easier for me to bring plenty of shade, have a ton of room, spend a lot of time sitting on the tailgate, and generally not be exerting my rickety, stroke at 35 ass.

Do I go for an SR5? I'd miss out on the cool shit like locking diff, KDSS, and so on, but on the other hand I had never really gotten hard into the "extreme" offroading anyways because when I had the Taco it was lol 2WD, and now given my health issues I wouldn't really be able to get out there and be using maxtrax & other recovery gear, etc. or make trail repairs.

Part of me feels like it would be a wasted 4k to be an insta broverlander, part of me feels like I should go big or go home & not worry about regretting having it and not ever needing it.

Limited is right out because cost and apparently XREAS is hot garbage.

 

Have a 21 TRD Offroad 4Runner. It is pretty basic. Next trim up has the cool stuff like driver/passenger hvac controls, better stereo, etc.

The offroad floats like a boat compared to my TRD Sport Taco.

Get the upgraded key and door sensors too. Compared to the lexus the basic key sucks. No lightup handles either.

 

Ya but on the 4runner they separate out the trims strangely. SR5 Premium trim can get premium stuff like leather, keyfobs, dual zone climate, stereo and so on, but it has "basic" 4WD which includes no lockers, just 2, 4Hi, 4lo
TRD Offroad Premium has the same stuff but can get the locker, has the "advanced" 4WD with crawl control, an actual lever instead of a knob, and a rear locker.

That's what I'm struggling with- I'm gonna go for the comfort stuff regardless.

 

No question then. TRDOR because it has a real tcase with a shift lever and the locker.

 

@Nitori So I have owned an 2014 SR5 premium and a 2018 TRD Offroad and now we have a 2021 TRD Pro. Honestly, to me, they all ride about the same. I wheeled the piss out of the SR5 with the electronic transfer case and no locker or fancy stuff and never had a single issue or complaint outside of petty stuff. Had leather and sunroof but no smart key or JBL stereo (no love lost on that). The TRD offroad was nice because it had the "creature comforts" but it rode and felt the same as the SR5 Premium. The PRO has everything we could ask for and it's a sweet color, it rides super nice on the fox shocks and doesn't have the KDSS. Is it a need, absolutely not but whatever, the wife wants to keep it long term so we splurged.

All this to say, get what you can comfortably afford and what meets the "needs" outside of that, everything is upgradable later. The dual climates are cool in theory but when you sit 11" from your wife in the front seat, the 2* temperature difference is not all that noticeable and doesn't really matter. Do you need a sunroof or would you like to have the head room. So ask yourself is the locker and crawl control that you probably wont ever use since you said you dont really wheel it worth the extra cash.... pry not but I don't manage your finances . If you need a locker down the road you get an ARB for $1500 bucks and better suspension for $2500 bucks and call it a day.

Or if you just want to get the best that you can, do the TRD Offroad. I will say the one thing I REALLY like about the TRDOR is that it has the black interior trim. The silver trim in the lower models gets DESTROYED very quickly and then just looks dirty all the time and if I were to get a lower model again, I would wrap it or order the black trim parts for the center console and dash. Just my two cents. The T4R is a great platform honestly, we love them.

 

Yeah so far I've asked a few other T4R owners and Tacoma owners and it's been almost unanimous in favor of the SR5... like 4 to 1 of the 5 people I chatted with. It's nice because that eases up on the budget waaaaay more than you'd think and also means I need to go back to my excel spreadsheets and calculators and think about maybe paying off the Lexus 100% right now and financing the T4R with a little less down, but only 1 note to pay.

It could also mean actually being able to put down the modular flooring in the garage, add some wheels sooner rather than later, etc. etc. not stretching myself as much.

And a little bit of trim replacement is totally within my wheelhouse still. Even though it might not be my favorite, I've got every flavor of trim panel puller in varying squishy-ness non-marring factors.

 

Who’s coming out in 3 weeks? Hopefully I can get the truck done in time.

 

you know we're gonna try!

 

So what’s the situation with yours? Any updates? Parts ordered?

 

I am about 15k miles in on mine. So far so good. I am guessing only another 15k-20k miles tho. For the price I am not complaining tho.