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"Baja" suspension lift???

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by MWM BAJA 12, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. Jun 11, 2013 at 5:59 AM
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    MWM BAJA 12

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    Anyone out there with a "Baja" Taco lifted it any to accommodate bigger wheels/tires?:confused: I know its doesn't make sense to drop the coin on the "Baja" then drop more coin to lift it, but I didn't know if I could add some spacers to give it just enough space to rock some 285s or even 305s:D
     
  2. Aug 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM
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    If you got little 1 inch spacers that would be your UCA limit and itll clear 285 with the mud flaps off depending on your rims offset if its stock rims I had to run 1 inch wheel spacers or the 285 on the sport rims rubbed on my control arm. This is based off the fact I had 3 inch spacers and the baja is 2 ish inches taller and the fact the more than 3 inches is not a good idea (I have had zero problems with 3 inch) but more than that (im thinking like ome 886 with no load being around 4) I would bet would cause instant problems.

    If you want to wait around I plan to upgrade my trd offroad with baja suspension kit and then run very small spacers to keep the same hieght it sits now.

    I also went down 2 sizes to 265/75r16

    I have no idea about 305
     
  3. Sep 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM
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    NOW I'M CONFUSED??????? I HAVE A 2012 BAJA TX, was thinking about lifting it another inch or so, and then adding 1.25 wheel spacers, now I don't know if I should mess with it at all? I don't want any issues...
     
  4. Sep 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM
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    Don't think you'll need to lift the front at all. The Baja suspension lifts the front by 2.0' over stock.

    But you'll probably need to lift the rear. Put in a 1.5' AAL or a Dakar leaf pack and you should be good!

    I'm assuming the max tire size with that would be 285's. No need to go bigger than that IMO.
     
  5. Oct 8, 2013 at 5:26 AM
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    I think if you ran the 285 sizes that are common, on a stock baja, you would have major rubbing issues. I didnt measure mine before, but i would almost bet its realistically more like 1.75 inches, 2 inches brand new before any sag and without someone in it.

    I installed the baja suspension on my tacoma and im really enjoying it. I also installed it on my mom's tacoma, she loves it as well. And at $1550 it was a bargain vs the $4600 toyota stiffs folks for the package on the truck (suspension, wheels and tires, stickers, exhaust) granted, i really like the baja package, since i owned my 2013 already trading was even more of a loss, and i already bought the TRD wheels i wanted etc. Now all i need is the vynal flooring :)

    Sorry for the long wait before i responded i forgot about this one..

    I ordered a set of 3/4 inch poly isolator replacement from wheelers, im pretty sure they are actually from daystar. But wheelers was VERY easy to deal with. I also go the 1/4 top plate spacer to fix the taco lean.

    I was going to install them last weekend, but i had other things to do and i felt like crap.

    here they are waiting for me

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    I will gladly post more pictures, and impressions etc once i get them installed. I dont expect there to be any issues, it should make make truck sit pretty much dead level

    topgun add-a-leaf (best one ive had so far)
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    trd offroad, bilstien 5100, trd baja
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    my moms 2011 "baja" :)
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    before my springs sagged a bit in the front
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  6. Oct 8, 2013 at 5:37 AM
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    Gregman

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    I think it makes more sense to get an SR5 4x4 and then install an Icon Stage 4 or something like that with ARB air lockers front and rear, you'll end up with a very capable truck for less $$$.
     
  7. Oct 8, 2013 at 6:15 AM
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    except OP has a baja,

    and i wanted the baja suspension, for the money i think its just as good as others that are not covered by my warranty

    Icon stage 4 is great and all, but cost at least twice what mine cost... and i dont need it, i dont do anything high speed but drive to work when i do wheel its low speed, and i mainly us my truck to tow and haul with, the play truck is my main source of offroading.

    and many people say that, but i dont need a front locker in my dd, and the rear locker would not be warrantied, wheras my e-locker is lifetime warrantied.

    SO, here is as close as i can build on toyota.com to my truck
    <li class="summary-item">V6 Tow Package 21 for Off-Road Package: [TW]$650<li class="summary-item">Entune™ Audio Plus includes the Entune™ [ED]$680 (automatic for 2014)<li class="summary-item">TRD Off-Road Extra Value Package: Off-road-tuned suspension with Bilstein® shocks, electronically controlled locking rear differential, 16-in. alloy wheels with P265/70R16 BFGoodrich® tires, VSC12 +A-TRAC in place of standard VSC12 +TRAC, engine skid plate, front tow hook, 115V/400W deck powerpoint, fog lights, power outside mirrors, remote keyless entry, cruise control, variable-speed wipers, chrome grille surround and rear bumper, color-keyed front bumper and overfenders, sliding rear window with privacy glass, Sport water-resistant seats with driver lumbar support (passenger-side fold-flat feature delete), metallic-toned instrument panel trim, leather-trimmed steering wheel with audio controls, dual sun visors with mirrors and extenders, tailgate-handle integrated backup camera 1, auto-dimming rearview mirror with outside temperature gauge, TRD Off-Road graphics [OC]$3,485<li class="summary-item delivery-fee">Delivery, Processing & Handling Fee $860<li class="summary-heading total-bottom">Total Price (msrp)
    $31,580
    and here is the closest SR5 i can build (no sr5 6spd option)
    <li class="summary-heading total">Total Price (msrp)
    $31,110<li class="summary-item base-price">Base Price $26,785<li class="summary-item">16-in. alloy wheels with P245/75R16 tires [AL]$400 <li class="summary-item">V6 Tow Package [TO]$650<li class="summary-item">Entune™ Audio Plus includes the Entune™ 2 [ED]$680<li class="summary-item">SR5 Extra Value Package: Power outside mirrors, remote keyless entry system, cruise control, variable intermittent windshield wipers, chrome grille surround and rear bumper, color-keyed front bumper and overfenders, fog lights, sliding rear window with privacy glass, bucket seats with driver lumbar support, SR5 fabric trim, metallic-toned instrument panel trim, leather-trimmed steering wheel with audio controls and shifter, dual sun visors with mirrors and extenders, tailgate-handle integrated backup camera 1, auto-dimming rearview mirror with outside temperature gauge, SR5 badge [SL]$1,735<li class="summary-item delivery-fee">Delivery, Processing & Handling Fee $860<li class="summary-heading total-bottom">Total Price (msrp)
    $31,110
    right, so
    that is $31,110 dollars for sr5, we will be nice and take off 1k for the auto, $400 wheels i dont know how they showed up

    So 29,710 would be the price, for an sr5
    and 31,580 the price for the trd offroad

    i payed $1550 for the baja suspension so the adjusted total is

    So 29,710 would be the price, for an sr5
    and 33,130 the price for the trd offroad

    so, now you have 3400 and some change, well call it $3500
    how in the world, are your going to install an icon stage 4, or something like that, and arb lockers front and rear. For less than $3500

    that would be comparing to mine, comparing to the baja truck for cost, you have a better chance. BUT then you have to figure tires and wheels, (to compare to the baja)

    I get what your saying, i hear it all the time. But i dont see the actual numbers for most of the ridiculous claims

    Yes, i would say an icon stage 4 would probably out perform a baja suspension at everything, at twice the cost

    Yes, if i planned to build a dedicated toy, i would agree that building a base model truck is better. But from the factory many of the features i would like to have are offered, with full warranty, and the value is better, for my intended purpose and for many others as well.
     
  8. Oct 10, 2013 at 7:50 AM
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    I installed the 3/4 preload isolators from wheelers day before yesterday, heres some pics. It ride a tiny bit stiffer than before, but so far no problems at all. I love it.
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  9. Oct 10, 2013 at 7:52 AM
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    ^ it flexxed out pretty well, tried to get some good pics but my phone was dead, the jack pic i tried when i got home and it was too unstable to go any higher safely but it still goes a little bit more no problems.
     
  10. Oct 10, 2013 at 7:56 AM
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    I am not reading through this whole thing, but I have a baja with 285's so I figure I would just share a picture. If you have questions PM me. I am going to trim my fenders that is why they are off. Trimming is a must if you are going to offroad.

    Edit: Here is a thread with everything about baja's

    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/277344-because-baja.html



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  11. Oct 10, 2013 at 8:02 AM
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    I had 285/75/17 for awhile and got tired of the rubbing. Plus they were nitto junk.

    Now i have 265/75r16 and couldnt be happier. With mudflaps removed they dont rub 99 percent of the time, i get one very slight rub with the driver front stuffed but cant find it.
     
  12. Oct 10, 2013 at 8:43 AM
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    285/75/17 would be even bigger than my 285/75/16's. I have 0 issues with rubbing with my fenders off except when I really stuff. Once I trim my wheel wells & fenders (in anticipation for 35s) it will be over kill for 285's.
     
  13. Oct 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM
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    Yea i didnt think of the fact you had 16's and i had 17 inch sport wheels on it then..

    35's would be nice if i ever make my truck a dedicated toy, for the foreseable future im staying smaller.
     
  14. Jul 25, 2014 at 3:40 PM
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    So I saw that in this post you said you put 285s on your baja, I was wondering, did you have to put a spacer on the coils to fit that size of tire and if so what did you use?
     
  15. Jul 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM
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  16. Jul 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM
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    so I you were to change the front uca to a camburg or TC, I could gain 1" more travel compared to stock? Does it change the ride height at all? Sorry for the newbie question. I got a 2014 DCSB Baja
     
  17. Jul 26, 2014 at 3:03 PM
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    Yes, it allows for 1" more of droop travel. No, it does not change the height or ride at all.
     
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