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Balance Resolution

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Lifeoffroad03, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. Sep 15, 2009 at 11:11 PM
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    So is there a fix to the balancing issues?
     
  2. Sep 16, 2009 at 4:09 AM
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    Whatta ya mean? Need more info.......

    Balancing - as in - tires?

    My husband and I have used EQUAL balancing in our Jeep (35x12.50x15) for years. It's worked GREAT even up at highway speeds 70mph. The same EQUAL has been in the tires for about 5 years.

    The key to that, is putting the right amount in each tire. A local friend & garage owner down the street got it perfect.

    http://www.imiproducts.com/equal/index.aspx
     
  3. Sep 16, 2009 at 6:10 AM
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    How do you get it from those little packets into the tires? :notsure:

    (Sorry, couldn't resist. :D )
     
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    :laugh:....sorry Janster....
     
  6. Sep 16, 2009 at 7:02 AM
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    Yes tire balancing. I had it in my FJ and now my Tacoma. As soon as i put new tires and wheels on. I have tried all those different balancers to. The Hunter the roadforce and nothing has worked. It fixes it for a few miles and then right back. I have seen post after post about this on here and FJ forums and im just surprised there is not a TSB.

    Even my service guy that i have seen for years told me the trucks they modify to sell have had issues and they cant figure it out.

    So just wondering if anyone has truly solved this or not
     
  7. Sep 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM
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    NICE!

    Sorry Janster but you gotta admit it was pretty good...
     
  8. Sep 16, 2009 at 7:14 AM
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    Any of you had a high speed balance? I know when we had customers that had balance issues when getting new rims this would fix it. There was only one place that did it in range of us though and it was still about 30 minutes away. It basically does the balance process with the rims still on the car at highway speed. What speed are you getting to when you notice the problem?
     
  9. Sep 16, 2009 at 7:24 AM
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    i have seen some people have to use a lot of weights to get properly balanced with after market rims
     
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    Here is some good information:

    http://customwheelsmarket.com/moinonwhba.html

    The "high speed balance" I was refering to is also know as balancing "on vehicle."

    Like I said we sent our customers with balance problems to get it done and never had any problems after.
     
  11. Sep 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM
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    :p:p

    Ancient chinese secret (I think). :D YOu'll have to ask the guy who put it in there! ;)
     
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    Did you try a standard balance machine....balance the tire as usual. Then - take the tire off the machine and rotate it 180 degrees and spin it again?

    Another thought.... Are all 4 of them out of balance? Have you tried rotating them to see if the vibration severity & feel changes? Perhaps you can narrow it down to one or two wheels/tires?

    I've known guys to install new wheels & tires and find one of the wheels were bad...or one of the tires were bad.

    If (for whatever reason), one of your wheels are bent or out-of-round can also cause vibrations. I had a wheel that was bent and out-of-round by only 1/8" and it caused a vibration at 60mph (on my jeep).
     
  13. Sep 16, 2009 at 7:05 PM
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    I believe the high speed balance is the same as the "road force" it is done on the car.
     
  14. Sep 16, 2009 at 7:10 PM
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    I tried all forms of balance on my FJ. I havent yet rotated the ones on my Tacoma as I just got them on. Based on my FJ something tells me its going to be no different. I have run all kinds of wheels and tire combos and never had issues until i got into 2007 + Toyota truck suspension. I cant imagine i was unlucky enough to two sets of wheel and tire combos and they were bad. Unless the shop i use has a huge stock of bad tires.
     
  15. Sep 18, 2009 at 11:59 AM
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    Here's some info I forgot about....

    When you use EQUAL - they install a special valve stem with a filter in it. The filter is to prevent the granuals from coming out when you air up the tires (or whatever).

    Obviously, you can't have the TPMS & the filtered valve stem at the same time.

    Do you need the filtered valve stem? Not necessarily..... when offroading, we had to remove the valve stem cores completely to air-down. The filters wouldn't let the air out fast enough. We lost a few granuals, but that didn't affect how it balanced.

    Can you run the TPMS with EQUAL? I honestly don't know....how or if the granuals will affect the TPMS or not. Or if anyone has ever tried it....???

    But getting the proper amount in the tire is a major key in how it works.
     
  16. Sep 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM
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    Alright everyone i took engadgets recommendations and requested to have the tires balanced by the lugs and guess what IT WORKED. They did this with the road force balance on a hunter machine and hopefully i wont jinx it but it rides great.
     
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