Bass head with an idea and thinking out loud.

I am kicking around the idea of selling my Audison Bitone.1. If you think you want to play active, let me know.

 

Interesting I've never done a full active but I was thinking that the Kenwood would get me close but I may go straight to a processor.

 

Time alignment (left and right) is great but think about it this way. The tweeter and midbass are in totally different positions and need different amounts of time alignment. With the processor you can really move things around to where they need to be. Not only that, but you can get the levels on each driver where they need to be.

 

I think I'll just keep it simple and go with your suggestions Italyn but I will still be getting bigger subs to help bring in some better low's because my Polk's sound great just drop off hard, smoothly though, at 60Hz.

Yea I may end up doing that. What would be a ballpark price? Aren't the Audison's around 1,000 new?

 

How do you guy's like the thin type R? I've got the room for a 10 ported and 12 sealed behind the seat. I was thinking that a good tuned port on the 10 will really help me get the low's I'm after. If you haven't figured it out by now I'm as indecisive as a motherfucker.

 

I've worked with the Type R's a little bit before the thin ones were released. I had a 10" in a ported box behind my seat and it was the loudest single 10" sub woofer I've ever heard. Wasn't all that great of sound quality, though. Had this setup before I ever worked at a stereo shop. I also had the same sub in a sealed enclosure before and it was a bit quieter, but the difference in sound quality was hardly noticeable. The Alpine sales rep that stops by our shop every once in a while swears up and down that the thin woofers have the same output as the standard ones but.... Well, he's a sales rep, therefore you can only trust him as far as you can throw him.

Personally, I don't value any Alpine speaker in terms of sound quality but the Type R's can get really loud for their price range.

 

How about the Kenwood thin mount's? I'd love to have your W6's but I'm really rethinking the idea of a sub box sitting in my back seat plus I didn't like the vibes form the sub box sitting directly on the back of my seat when I had that little L3 back there. I'm thinking a Kenwood

$199 KFC-XW1200F 12in Mount Subwoofer Car

KFC-XW1200F in a ported box will give me the low's I want. I can do .8 cubes back behind my rear seat maybe up to 1 cube but my max mounting depth is a little under 4 inches.

 

How would you suggest I do my tweeters? Should I do an A-Pillar facing each other off axis, A-Pillar on axis or something like putting the "enclosure" and tweeter in the stock location in the door's and tune it like that?

 

The stock location is very close to the listener so I would advise against it. Matt what do you think? My vote would be A-Pillar on axis.

 

Well I can get Kenwood products, as well. Haven't had much experience with their shallow mounts. If you really want to do some kind of shallow woofer, I would suggest either the JL W1, the new JL TW3 woofer, or the Hertz Energy 10".

 

I don't know where stock location is on the 1st gen...

The stock door location was ok with time alignment, would hate it with out. Sails or a pillars without processing, with a pillars on axis as the clear winner. That ability to us a lot more tweeters, and lower crossover points, ftw.

Please remember - most of what you hear with a sub is enclosure. If it sucks, quality suffers. The thin alpine has good excursion,low distortion, small box requirements, and a lot of new technology. I'd take it over quite a few traditional "sq" subs...

 

Stock tweeter's in my 1st gen are in the same locale as the 2nd gen's.

 

I've got all the sq I need and want, I'm focused on spl with this build. Do you guys feel that W1's in a good box would out hit a thin type r or other thin sub in a good box?

 

Updated OP.

 

So far I've gotten the kenwood KDCX905 HU and the Type-R thin mount. I put the Type-R in a friends 1ft^3 ported at 32hz box on my Kenwood KDC-8105D and that bitch bangs at roughly 450w. It has the SPL of the regular Type-R 10 but, as expected, SQ isn't as good. I just need the time to fab and install the box and hu

I still haven't take the Kenwood out the box other than to verify that it's as it should be and that everything is there. Next stop is amp town I'm thinking either Alpine PDX-5 or JL 900/5, most likely Alpine just depends on what shows up in the classifieds. Then deaden it and finally I'll give Audison some of my money, or a lot if I go active...

 

With my birthday in a week I hope to have everything I need pretty soon so just keep and eye out on updates. Pics as soon as I can get them.

 

Hertz to be ordered soon. One last question should I run a 5 channel amp utilizing 2 channels for the tweeters, 2 for the mid's, and one for the sub or a 3 channel utilizing 2 for the mid's and tweeter and use the supplied x-over's and the 3rd for the sub? I was leaning the was of a 5 channel namely the new Alpine V9 because it'll run all of the component's at their RMS rating's.

 

I have been thinking about building the exact same thing as you. Probably just two subs though. Same shape, with cupholders and whatnot. But I have an 06 access cab.

 

I've scratched the idea of doing that L shape box, I really don't like the box sitting on the back seat like that. Look back a few pages and there's a box just like that for access cab's. If you want to spend the money JL Audio has a stealthbox just like that.

 

I'm running 2 10's in a sealed (kicker) and a JL 12 in a gigantic (fucking huge) ported box just behind the driver seat in a ghetto seat-belted in fashion haha it kicks pretty good but I hate how much room it takes up (access cab) I've been thinking of making a nicer box to get all three woofers and the amp in a single box setup that's somehow attached to the cab top. .....and then some polk audio wakeboard tower speakers on my roofrack for those bonfire parties haha.