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BassAckwards' 2TR-FE PreRunner

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by BassAckwards, May 19, 2017.

  1. Mar 13, 2021 at 4:31 PM
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    BassAckwards

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    Good evenin John!
    Good evenin Ryan, yes sir, been at it. Hoping to get this little problem child sorted out soon lol
    Runs great but she is still puking everywhere lol. Head gasket leak is getting worse. I am tearing it down first thing tomorrow morning to do a replacement. I think i found somewhere relatively close that can resurface the head.
     
  2. Mar 13, 2021 at 4:44 PM
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    How much material you going to remove? Going with a thicker gasket to compensate?
     
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  3. Mar 13, 2021 at 4:57 PM
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    I bought a .030” thickness head gasket today which should be a little thicker than stock. I am gonna measure the one that comes off of it and have them mill off the difference. What are your thoughts on this? I am wondering if i can trust my digital calipers for something like this
     
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  4. Mar 13, 2021 at 5:09 PM
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    Think I would take the head, old gasket and new gasket with me to the shop that's going to do the milling and see if they have an opinion. But what you're saying sounds logical.

    Sounds like you need to get lost in the Google for awhile and see what others are saying
     
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  5. Mar 13, 2021 at 9:28 PM
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    That’s a great idea, i’ll definitely do that with the gaskets.

    Ive been doing lots of reading but i tend to overthink things lol. I am hoping i can get this sorted without too much issue. I dont have much to lose at this point
     
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  6. Mar 14, 2021 at 11:28 AM
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    Progress so far. Getting ready to pull the valve cover, set the timing, then out comes the cams and timing cover, followed by the head. Hoping to have it finished being torn down in a couple of hours
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  7. Mar 14, 2021 at 2:46 PM
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    Just finished getting the head off, took about 6 hours from start to finish. Looks like gasket failure on at least three of the four cylinders on the exhaust side and cyl 4 was getting started
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  8. Mar 14, 2021 at 3:14 PM
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    Dang. That gasket was fighting the good fight
     
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    It was trying to hold on but just wasnt quite up to the task
     
  10. Mar 15, 2021 at 12:08 PM
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    Dropped the cylinder head off at the machine shop this morning in Boerne. Talked to the owner and he said he normally takes off about .010” to true things up. The gasket i bought is .030” thickness and i took the old one in with me and he said it came out to about .020” so that should work perfect. He said it should be ready by wednesday so i may be taking advantage of the added sunlight in the evenings to get this thing thrown back together.
     
  11. Mar 15, 2021 at 12:29 PM
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    So what is the plan to keep this from happening again?
     
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  12. Mar 15, 2021 at 12:38 PM
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    ARP head studs and 80 ft lbs of torque. other than that if it pukes another gasket after a short period of time, i'm gonna start looking at a LQ9 6.0 LS swap. I really want this 2TR to like boost and hold up to it, but i am not so sure that's gonna happen. I am about tired of fighting this thing though so something's gotta change. I will probably put a much less aggressive tune on it as well whenever i get it put back together, but i dont think that's the problem
     
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  13. Mar 15, 2021 at 1:24 PM
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    Out of curiosity, what clutch are you running? Mine just bit the big one in the way to work today, and I just got done being run in circles with LCE and clutch masters. LCE is going to get back to me with a recommendation for my application sometime today.
     
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    I am running SPEC's stage 2+ clutch. It has been holding up great, but there are some minor vibrations throughout certain rev ranges while accelerating and decelerating. I got used to it though and can drive it without having it vibrate. I had a similar issue with LCE's dual comp clutch and after they gave me the runaround (and then sent me to the manufacturer- Clutchmasters) who also gave me the run around, i finally decided to bite the bullet and put a better clutch in it. I would personally avoid LCE's clutches as they're made by clutchmasters and they have absolutely terrible customer service and support.
     
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    I haven't had any issues with LCE's support so far, but clutch masters was a bit of a pain. LCE told me to call clutchmasters and ask about a twin disc setup to keep street driving and still be able to handle aggressive driving, some drag racing, boosted launches and such. Spoke with clutchmasters and they said "no way, that's a drag clutch only, you want the 6 puck ceramic clutch." They also said they could do a twin disc, but it would be a custom order and about 2700.
     
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    Yeah i know i'm a bit biased, but i wouldnt touch a clutchmasters disc with a 10 ft pole after what they put me through. I had to drop my trans 5 times to narrow it down to a loose hub on the clutch disc and even after that, they refused to warranty the disc

    Dang, 2700 is not cheap! That would be cool to see a twin disc setup for the R155 though. Keep me posted on what you decide to do man
     
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    Ouch, yeah I'm hoping to not remove the trans that many times. I looked at the stage 2+ and up, but the highest hp/torque rating I could find was URD claiming 180% torque hold, meaning about 500 ft lbs if I did my math correctly. I expected a beefy clutch to be expensive so I'm not really scared off by the 2700 price tag.

    Edit: that URD clutch also had a note saying drag use only, not a street clutch.
     
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    Ahhh yeah i keep forgetting you're getting ready to boost yours to the moon lol. Yeah if you're looking to daily it i would avoid the puck style clutches. A twin disc setup might be a good compromise with what you plan to do with your truck
     
  20. Mar 15, 2021 at 2:41 PM
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    That's unreal the hub loosened on the clutch, something that should never happen. Garbage company
     
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